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Infinity, Inc. (Earth-Two) to Infinity, Inc. I (New Earth)
See Talk: Infinity, Inc. (Earth-Two). DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 21:35, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

Emily Sung (New Earth) to Emily Sung (Prime Earth)
For the same reasons as Pandora (Prime Earth). Her only New Earth appearances were in Flash: Flashpoint, with most of her appearances being in Prime Earth, which has established her further. With such a disparity, should we just switch that name? GZilla311 (talk) 20:27, April 23, 2014 (UTC)style="color:#FF8C00">217 ]] 19:16, April 29, 2014 (UTC)

I agree she should be moved, she never appeared in New Earth. (Blackest Day (talk) 00:06, December 1, 2014 (UTC))

All "Date with Debbi" Characters
Like I said on one of my edits, I'm not sure if we even cover this series. I see there's a DC brand on the top of the comic but I'm admittedly not the best with our policy on this type of old comics. However, in case we do need these character pages, they all need moves for obvious reasons:

--- Haroldrocks  talk  12:19, September 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Bertram "Binky" Biggs to Betram Biggs (Date With Debbi)
 * Mr Shickles to Mister Shickles (Date With Debbi)
 * Buddy Baxter to Buddy Baxter (Date With Debbi)
 * Mrs Anderson to Mrs. Anderson (Date With Debbi)
 * Rockwell Anderson to Rockwell Anderson (Date With Debbi)
 * Desdimona De Wolfe to Desdimona De Wolfe (Date With Debbi)
 * Debbi Anderson to Debbi Anderson (Date With Debbi)
 * Tod Frazier to Tod Frazier (Date With Debbi)
 * Mr Kibble to Mister Kibble (Date With Debbi)
 * Peggy Baxter to Peggy Baxter (Date With Debbi)
 * Coach Norris to Coach Norris (Date With Debbi)
 * Sherwood to Sherwood (Date With Debbi)
 * To my knowledge, there is no reason that Date with Debbie needs its own universe. It's just Earth-One. (That said, half these characters seem to be Leave it to Binky characters, not Date with Debbie characters. Leave it to Binky characters have Earth-Two and Earth-One versions, and the Earth-One Binky made it into New Earth...) Shadzane (talk) 13:40, September 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Only proving my lack of knowledge of these old comics. I'm out of my element with them. Thanks for pointing that out, Shadzane. :) What universe designation should we go with then? New Earth? Earth-Two? Earth-One? (And do any of these characters already have pages with Leave it to Binky?) --- Haroldrocks  talk  14:15, September 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * I think it's one of those love titles that, like the comedy titles of Earth-Twelve, exists outside regular continuity. I think it needs separate tags, not three or more pages for regular continuity versions. Just (Binky) or (Leave it to Binky) is fine with me. -- Tupka 217 14:50, September 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Date with Debbi is not a love title. It is a teen humor title, like Archie. It had a fairly compact run (1969-1972), so it doesn't have the continuity-busting problem of the characters being teenagers for decades. And it doesn't have all the supernatural and science-fiction elements that got Swing with Scooter assigned to Earth-Twelve. I see no reason at all it cannot be Earth-One. (I'm only talking about Date with Debbi here; Leave it to Binky is more complicated.) Shadzane (talk) 15:01, September 3, 2014 (UTC)

Zeke (Prime Earth) to Zeus (Prime Earth)
He turns out to be Zeus in #35. -- Tupka 217 12:50, October 30, 2014 (UTC)

Albrecht Raines (New Earth) to Albrecht Raines (Earth-One)
I cannot find where this character appeared (or was mentioned) post-Crisis. Neither can Tupka. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 21:13, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

L.E.G.I.O.N. to L.E.G.I.O.N. (New Earth)
A disambig move. There's a Prime Earth version (in the "wait, this exists? Threshold Vol 1), plus, plenty of comics. -- Tupka 217 15:54, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

Rachel Roth (Prime Earth) to Raven (Prime Earth)
"Rachel Roth" was a fake ID used by the New Earth version, it shouldn't be used as a pagename for this version. Or as the pagename for the New Earth version, for that matter. -- Tupka 217 12:20, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

Adventures Of Batman & Robin (Sega) to Adventures of Batman & Robin (Sega)
Proper capitalization.

- Byfield (talk) 12:49, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

Adventures Of Batman & Robin (SNES) to Adventures of Batman & Robin (SNES)
Proper capitalization.

- Byfield (talk) 12:49, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

Boris Zinoviev (Earth-One) to Boris (Earth-One)
He's based on Boris (Quality Universe), and never called anything but Boris. The name Zinoviev was invented for the Vol 2-3 era Boris. -- Tupka 217 22:58, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

Pierre Blanc-Dumont (Earth-X) to Le Sabre (Quality Universe)
See talk page here. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 05:50, November 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * You don't want to include "Le" in the page name, do you? I thought including initial articles like that was frowned on. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 08:24, November 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * That's a good point. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 08:56, November 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's sort of part of the English use of the name, just like El Diablo. -- Tupka 217 09:08, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Super Friends (TV Series) Episdoe: The Bride of Darkseid (Part II) to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: The Bride of Darkseid (Part II)
Pagename typo. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 10:48, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Liu Huang (Earth-One) to Wu Cheng (Earth-One)
Per AbsCOIE, the story that gave Chop-Chop his real name, #203, is non-canon. Evanier's name for him, Wu Cheng, is. -- Tupka 217 12:24, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Superman: Shadow Of Apokolips to Superman: Shadow of Apokolips (Video Game)
Proper capitalization of the game title and adding proper parenthetical.

- Byfield (talk) 20:07, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Supreme One (New Earth) to Supreme One (Earth-One)
O.G.R.E. (and its various members) never made any New Earth appearances (or mentions). Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 18:20, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Huntress (O.G.R.E.) (New Earth) to Huntress (Earth-One)
O.G.R.E. (and its various members) never made any New Earth appearances (or mentions). Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 18:20, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, I don't think we need "(O.G.R.E.)" in there; she is the only Huntress on Earth-One. Shadzane &#128128; (talk)  15:47, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Typhoon (O.G.R.E.) (New Earth) to Typhoon (O.G.R.E.) (Earth-One)
O.G.R.E. (and its various members) never made any New Earth appearances (or mentions). Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 18:20, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * The page was moved to Typhoon (Earth-One) instead, which is OK. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 16:28, January 12, 2015 (UTC)

Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Revenge On Gorilla City to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Revenge on Gorilla City
Proper capitalization.

- Byfield (talk) 19:50, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: World Beneath The Ice to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: World Beneath the Ice
Proper capitalization.

- Byfield (talk) 19:50, November 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * This is the same for the following:
 * Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Swamp Of The Living Dead to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Swamp of the Living Dead
 * Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Rokan: Enemy From Space to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Rokan: Enemy from Space
 * Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Attack Of The Vampire to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Attack of the Vampire
 * Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: The Pied Piper From Space to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: The Pied Piper from Space
 * Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Sinbad And The Space Pirates to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Sinbad and the Space Pirates
 * Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Battle At The Earth's Core to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Battle at the Earth's Core
 * Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: The Giants Of Doom to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: The Giants of Doom
 * Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Invasion Of The Brain Creatures to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Invasion of the Brain Creatures
 * Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Terror From The Phantom Zone to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Terror from the Phantom Zone
 * Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Batman: Dead Or Alive to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Batman: Dead or Alive
 * Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Fairy Tale Of Doom to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Fairy Tale of Doom
 * Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Conquerors Of The Future to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Conquerors of the Future
 * Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Super Friends: Rest In Peace to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Super Friends: Rest in Peace
 * Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Rub Three Times For Disaster to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: Rub Three Times for Disaster


 * - Byfield (talk) 20:08, November 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * And add Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: The Island Of The Dinasoids to Super Friends (TV Series) Episode: The Island of the Dinasoids for the same reason. - Byfield (talk) 16:56, November 21, 2014 (UTC)

Stavros Markos (New Earth) to Stavros Markos (Earth-One)
I cannot find where this character appeared (or was mentioned) post-Crisis. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 16:26, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

John Dolan (Earth-One) to John Dolan (New Earth)
John Dolan's existence on New Earth is established in when Kobra duplicates Dolan's origin to create Elemental Woman. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 18:48, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Jacob Baker (Earth-One) to Jacob Baker (New Earth)
Jacob Baker's existence on New Earth is established in when Kobra duplicates Baker's origin to create Zebra-Man II. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 18:48, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Spawn of Frankenstein (Earth-One) to Spawn of Frankenstein (New Earth)
The History and Notes sections on this page (which I did not write) make a good case that Spawn of Frankenstein did survive Crisis and make it to New Earth (and then was apparently erased by Zero Hour to make room for Frankenstein (New Earth)). Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 05:10, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

Sophia Santos (New Earth) to Sophia Santos (Earth-One)
I cannot find where this character appeared (or was mentioned) post-Crisis, and neither can Lucien61. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 15:49, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

Slasher (New Earth) to Slasher (Earth-One)
I cannot find where this character appeared (or was mentioned) post-Crisis, and neither can Kyletheobald. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 22:14, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

Sizematic (New Earth) to Sizematic (Earth-One)
I cannot find where these characters appeared (or were mentioned) post-Crisis, and neither can Tupka. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 23:01, November 21, 2014 (UTC)

Jerry White (New Earth) to Perry White, Jr. (New Earth)
According to Lex Luthor's computer screen in. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 10:57, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

Von Tepp (Earth-X) to Captain von Tepp (Quality Universe)
There's a second Von Tepp, his brother, in. We could name that one Baron von Tepp or Lieutenant von Tepp.-- Tupka 217 12:01, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

Werner Vertigo (Arrow) to The Count (Arrow)
The Count's name is never confirmed. I was fine with it being Werner Vertigo before, but now that we have a new Count Vertigo named Werner Zytle (Arrow), I can't begin to think about the probability that the first Count and his unrelated successor would have the same first name. It'd be better just to move the first. I don't care what it's moved to. I went with The Count (Arrow), thinking that we could handle the "The" like we do with The Flash (2014 TV Series). I'm also fine with Count (Arrow), Count Vertigo (Arrow), and Count Vertigo I (Arrow), although he's only referred to "Count Vertigo" posthumously in passing by Barry. --- Haroldrocks  talk  21:37, November 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree. He is only ever called "The Count" or, in his last episode, "Count Vertigo" (as he calls himself on his TV broadcast he makes). Although he does seem like he could be Werner Vertigo, the name is never stated, and it's said that not even the SCPD knows his actual identity, just knowing him by that alias of "The Count".GZilla311 (talk) 21:41, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Dark Knight (Movie) to The Dark Knight (Movie)
Full title of the film. Updating based on change in functionality of the Movie template.

Also Dark Knight Rises (Movie) to The Dark Knight Rises (Movie) for the same reason.

- Byfield (talk) 23:19, November 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * Again, I agree with this change. I never really thought it should have excluded the "The" to begin with, considering it seemed to make it harder to find the movie for people who look up the other name.GZilla311 (talk) 23:44, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Scorcher I (New Earth) to Scorcher II (Earth-One)
I cannot find where this character appeared (or was mentioned) post-Crisis, and neither can Kyletheobald. Also, if we change him to Earth-One, we'll need to renumber because of Scorcher (Earth-One). Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 15:51, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

Scorcher III (New Earth) to Scorcher II (New Earth) and Scorcher IV (New Earth) to Scorcher III (New Earth)
if the above move with Scorcher I (New Earth) goes thru, then we will need to make these moves too. If the above move does not go thru, then never mind. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 16:22, November 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hmm. If only their respective writers had revealed the real names of all these Scorchers. :-( DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 11:57, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Della Dale (Quality Universe) to Black Widow I (Quality Universe)
She only posed as reporter Della Dale, it wasn't her real name. -- Tupka 217 13:01, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * FYI, the paged was moved to Black Widow (Quality Universe) instead, in case anyone is looking for it/ Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 16:26, January 12, 2015 (UTC)

Franklin Chandler (New Earth) to Frank Chandler (New Earth)
His full name is Frank William Chandler. That's what's on his driver's license in Hellblazer #58, and what his profile in the Vertigo Secret Files calls him. Never Franklin. -- Tupka 217 19:49, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Kit Ryan (New Earth) to Kathryn Ryan (New Earth)
Full name revealed in #70. -- Tupka 217 15:36, November 29, 2014 (UTC)

Jesse Reese (Birds of Prey) to Jesse Hawke (Birds of Prey)
I'm putting this one up to represent the entire "birth name is a minor spoiler" group of characters. By the way, when's the DC Database:Naming Conventions page getting updated? JamesBCrazy (talk) 18:14, November 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * Is his actual name Jesse Hawke, or is his dad just named Hawke? We moved away from "father's name is birthname". -- Tupka 217 18:21, November 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * He was born Hawke, and changed it to Reese at some point before the series began. JamesBCrazy (talk) 04:29, December 4, 2014 (UTC)

Richard Wilson (New Earth) to Richard Wilson (Earth-One)
I cannot find where this character appeared (or was mentioned) post-Crisis, and neither can Lucien61 or Tupka. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 18:59, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

Samuel Wilson (New Earth) to Samuel Wilson (Earth-One)
I cannot find where this character appeared (or was mentioned) post-Crisis. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 18:59, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

Dr. Blizzard (DCAU) to Doctor Blizzard (DCAU)
Naming standard. --- Haroldrocks  talk  22:30, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

Joseph Chilton (Earth-Two) to Joe Chill (Earth-Two)
On Earth-Two, there was never any indication that Joe Chill was an alias. "Joseph Chilton" was an Earth-One addition. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 21:59, December 3, 2014 (UTC)

FerAlyce (New Earth) to Jackee Jones (New Earth)
Real name given in Hawkworld Vol 2 30. Kyletheobald (talk) 22:37, December 4, 2014 (UTC)

Arthur Curry (Earth-Two) to Aquaman (Earth-Two)
It seems the Arthur Curry name comes from the 1959 Earth-One origin. Much like the Golden Age Blackhawk, this Aquaman never was given a real name. His father is also unnamed. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 12:20, December 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Does this mean his father's page should be deleted, since he has no name at all? (I don't know the rule on unnamed characters having pages.) Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 08:42, December 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * I think it should be. He only made one appearance in flashback and practically everything that is known about him is in the quote on his son's page. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 16:15, December 9, 2014 (UTC)

Tim Drake (Injustice: Gods Among Us) to Timothy Drake (Injustice: Gods Among Us)
It's a pretty safe bet that his full name is Timothy. We usually assume that for Robins called "Tim" anyway. --- Haroldrocks  talk  20:26, December 13, 2014 (UTC)

Thinko (New Earth) to Thinko
Thinko has an item template. Also, "Thinko" just redirects back to "Thinko (New Earth)". I see two ways we can go with this: either move item Thinko to the redirect or treat Thinko like a character and give him a character template. --- Haroldrocks  talk  19:48, December 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * Humanoid robots generally get a character template. -- Tupka 217 20:17, December 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sure. Then we don't have to worry about moving it, then. I'll just switch the template. --- Haroldrocks  talk  20:28, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

Tommy Moon (New Earth) to Tommy Moon (Earth-One)
I cannot find where this character appeared (or was mentioned) post-Crisis. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 18:14, December 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * The page has been moved to Thomas Moon (Earth-One) instead, which is OK. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 16:22, January 12, 2015 (UTC)

David Wist (Earth-One) to David Wist (Earth-Two)
This character's only appearance was in in 1952, which is still Earth-Two, and that's how we have it indexed for the other characters in the story. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 21:30, December 15, 2014 (UTC)

Eve Doremus (Earth-One) to Eve Doremus (New Earth)
She appeared in. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 14:33, December 16, 2014 (UTC)

Mercury (Earth 2) to Mercury (Sphere of the Gods)
It has been confirmed by DC through their official youtube channel that all of the pantheons worshipped by the ancient civilizations of Earth are from a realm known as Skyland which in one of 8 realms that exist in the reality known as of the Sphere of the Gods. This will also mean that we'll have to move all the pages for deities that have appeared in the New 52 also as they are also from the Sphere of the Gods. DalekSupreme13 (talk) 07:56, December 17, 2014 (UTC)

Mary Kent (Earth-Two) to Mary Clark (Earth-Two)
According to, Clark was her maiden name. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 01:56, December 31, 2014 (UTC)

Bertram "Binky" Biggs to Bertram Biggs, Jr. (New Earth)
See the Talk page. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 16:21, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

Peggy Baxter (Date With Debbi) to Peggy Baxter (New Earth)
See the Bertram "Binky" Biggs Talk page. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 16:21, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

Sherwood (Date With Debbi) to Sherwood (Earth-One)
See the Bertram "Binky" Biggs Talk page. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 16:21, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

Needle (Earth-Two) to Needle (New Earth)
Shows up in flashback in Justice Society of America Vol 3 26. Kyletheobald (talk) 13:32, January 3, 2015 (UTC)

Captain Venture ( Earth-S) to Captain Venture (Earth-S)
Extra space before Earth-S. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 23:58, January 9, 2015 (UTC)

Mazdan (Earth-One) to Mazdan (New Earth)
He's depicted in. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 06:23, January 10, 2015 (UTC)

Mister Esper (Earth-One) to Mister Esper (New Earth)
New Earth appearances include and. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 06:33, January 10, 2015 (UTC)

The Others to The Others (Prime Earth)
Since we have a futures end version of the team, a comic series, and a one-shot which uses the name we need to move the page to The Others (Prime Earth) and make The Others page into a disambiguation page. DalekSupreme13 (talk) 06:35, January 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * Here's a possible alternate solution. We could put the disambig at Others. - Billy Arrowsmith (Talk), 07:14, January 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * Regardless of where we put the disambiguation page we'd still have to give the page a prime earth designation as we have teams from 2 different realities with the same name. DalekSupreme13 (talk) 09:39, January 12, 2015 (UTC)

Ace of Blades to Ace of Blades (Earth-S)
The page doesn't have a reality designation. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 10:46, January 12, 2015 (UTC)

Man in the Yellow Suit (Arrow) to Harrison Wells (Arrow)
It was recently confirmed at both a Arrow/The Flash QA session that Harrison Wells was, indeed, the Reverse Flash. He also explicitily confirms it in an interview here. How should we approach merging the pages into a singular page? TheD3xus (talk) 00:44, January 14, 2015 (UTC)


 * I, for one, am against moving or merging the page. Yet. Despite the actor saying he's the Reverse Flash, I won't believe anything until I see it with my own eyes on the actual show. There are still waaaaay too many questions to jump to conclusions. I don't see what the rush is with calling this guy the Reverse Flash. --- Haroldrocks   talk  00:50, January 14, 2015 (UTC)

Darrell Dane (New Earth) to Darrel Dane (New Earth)
It's Darrel in, and Darrell in. Since the earlier versions were Darrel, I propose this one (and any other) be named that too. -- Tupka 217 22:48, January 14, 2015 (UTC)

Renter (Earth-One) to Renter (Earth-Two)
This character's only appearance was in in 1952, which is still Earth-Two, and that's how we have it indexed for the other characters in the story. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 18:22, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

Oom (New Earth) to Oom (Earth-Two)
I cannot find where this character appeared (or was mentioned) post-Crisis (until recently, on Earth 5), and neither can Thanos6.Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 21:58, January 16, 2015 (UTC)

Arthur Curry (Flashpoint) to Arthur Curry (Flashpoint Elseworld)
See this page. Also applies to
 * George Harkness (Flashpoint) to George Harkness (Flashpoint Elseworld)
 * Roscoe Dillon (Flashpoint) to Roscoe Dillon (Flashpoint Elseworld)
 * Samuel Scudder (Flashpoint) to Samuel Scudder (Flashpoint Elseworld)

DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 20:03, January 17, 2015 (UTC)

Scarab (Shazam!/Isis Hour) to Scarab (Earth-S)
This guy appeared only in the Isis comic book, which was set on Earth-S. Shadzane &#128128; (talk) 05:55, January 18, 2015 (UTC)

Raphael Van Zandt (Earth-One) to Raphael Van Zandt (Earth-X)
Actually a native of Earth-X.

Weird, huh? DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 19:21, January 19, 2015 (UTC)


 * Not that weird. I'll recheck before moving. -- Tupka 217 19:23, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

Magog (Prime Earth) to David Reid (Prime Earth)
Magog's identity was confirmed in the early pages of Superman/Wonder Woman #15. We need to move his page to his proper identity. TheD3xus (talk) 19:44, January 20, 2015 (UTC)