User talk:Peteparker

Creator fields not visible?
Hey Nate,

Not sure if this is a template glitch or if only certain pages are being affected, but on some pages such as this, the creator fields are no longer visible? Any ideas? Thanks much!

Oh... and I know that the creator fields won't be visible if the creator pages haven't been made yet, but for some reason, they're still not showing up on this particular page, even after I created pages for the two creators. Weird. --Brian Kurtz 12:09, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Disregard. I think it was just some weird glitch with that particular page. I refreshed the page, and that seems to have done the trick. Thanks anyway! --Brian Kurtz 13:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Facebook icon
Hey Peteparker, whenever you get a chance, can you take a gander at the DC Database:News Template? The Facebook icon isn't showing up correctly. Not sure why. I pretty much just swiped the whole thing from MDP. Here's the link to the icon. If you can do this, I will reward you with pictures of coffee and donuts (once I figure out how that gift thingamajig works). Thanks! --Brian Kurtz 12:21, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Button Icons
Hey Peteparker, those button icons are awesome! Oh... I tweaked the DC Staff template slightly because it said "Marvel" in places where it should have read "DC". The button icon however still says Marvel though.

Also... if there's room on the edit page, can we also get a button icon somewhere for small script. I actually use that code quite a bit and it would really come in handy rather than typing out all the time. Thanks a lot! --Brian Kurtz 21:43, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Nice. I don't know about the little Earth icon with my stupidly named "Roygbiv666/ Earth Template" thing though. I just made it because I was too lazy to copy/paste for new "Earth-Number" entries. Suggestions on name change/move? Oh yeah, I agree on the small script too.

On a bigger note - how do you create these buttons? --Roygbiv666 22:40, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Image 'Subject' Fields
I don't foresee a problem with this, unless there is some autocategorization based on the subject field that won't be valid afterwards because some pagenames haven't been set up for the "new" name (ex. if the current subject is "Dogman (Earth-D)", it autocategorizes it to "Category:Dogman (Earth-D)/Images", then you 'correct' it to "Bob Pup (Earth-D)" and there isn't a "Category:Bob Pup (Earth-D)"). Roygbiv666 12:43, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Pete - I started a page for bot discussions/suggestions/etc. here. I know we should probably use the Forums, but I rarely check them. Roygbiv666 12:05, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Image Tag
I made a little template to stick in Image Templates, called Template:FairJust. What do you think - does it make sense in terms of usage and that sort of thing? I used it in Image:Power Boy 001.jpg.
 * Roygbiv666 04:31, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

"Bad" titles?
Is there a way to delete these "Bad" titles? Specifically Spoilers and Plagiarism. This would be awesomely appreciated. Thanks! --Brian Kurtz 00:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Main Page design
Hey Nate,

Gotta say, I'm liking the new "Main Page" layout. Takes a second to get used to, but I think it looks pretty schweet! That being said, you think it might be a good idea to mebbe shift the Random Image section to the right? The only reason I say is because there's this looooooooong blank space beneath the News section. If not, certainly no biggie. Also, is there still a chance of doing away with that weird plagiarism link on the uncategorized pages page? That thing just annoys me like a cankor. Oh... I answered your other comments on my talk page. Thanks again. Cheers! --Brian Kurtz 16:03, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Template Help
Any idea why this isn't working properly? When it's inserted into a page, it should show up and categorize the page as part of the storyline. It looks like the template is set up correctly (see Template:MX for a similar idea), but when you insert it into the page, you just get a link to the template, not the nifty thing you should see.
 * Roygbiv666 19:41, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Bot Problems
Hey, I noticed a couple of problems with the bot going around and fixing redirects on the individual pages. I think it's really cool, but... there are a bunch of special circumstances where it generates problems. For example, in issues of "Green Lantern: Evil's Might", an Elseworlds tale putting the Green Lanterns into 19th Century NYC ala Gangs of New York, I put down like "Kyle Rayner" under the appearing, but it actually slated "Kyle Rayner (New Earth)" as a cast member, and now we have it listed that Kyle Rayner died over a century before his own birth in conflict with Tammany Hall. And I put a link at the bottom to "Green Lantern: Evil's Might", which I plan on making into a storyline page, but it changed it to just linking back to the comic list where it's currently redirecting. It's a really cool program otherwise, but it... lacks a personal touch. Is there anyway we can improve this? If not, whatever whatever, it's not too much work to just go through and change where applicable.

This ties into that thing I was talking about earlier on the forums though. How do we list appearances of characters like these? I'm in favor of "Kyle Rayner (Alternate)" as a general page, with its own appearances category.
 * - Billy Arrowsmith, 21:51, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

DC Database:Location Template
I think one of the updates to this template may have changed/eliminated one of the "DC type" fields - i.e. "Sector", which refers to which Green Lantern space sector a location is a part of. See New Earth for an example. It used to auto-categorize the entry as part of "Secto 2814".
 * Roygbiv666 01:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * You might want to have a look at New Earth or Earth-2 - they don't look formatted properly anymore.
 * Roygbiv666 14:01, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Character Template
Does the template still have the "Theme" option, I don't see it on the template page. If it still exists, how do you create a theme?
 * Roygbiv666 13:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

The Shield
Check out DC Reacquires Archie Characters - it's like a backhanded way to acquire a "Captain America" character of their own. Thanks for all your help on the Templates and what not!
 * Roygbiv666 04:07, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

DC Database:Column Template
If you get a chance, could you take a look at this template. I was trying to modify the Comic Template into a Column Template (for like editorial columns), started eliminating code, and I think I dropped a bracket or a div or something.
 * Roygbiv666 13:12, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Would you be able to change the Pubmonth/pubyear defaults? The column is actually dated with the publishing month (and week), it's not three months ahead like comics. I looked, but my head started hurting - thank God I'm good looking. Thanks.
 * Roygbiv666 01:25, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Character Original Publisher
Do you think there's any value/need for adding a field to the Character Template to identify the original publisher? Like All-American for Wonder Woman, Alan Scott; Quality Comics for Uncle Sam; and MLJ for the Shield; and so on. Of course, it would then auto-categorize as "Category:Quality Comics Characters" and so on.
 * Roygbiv666 00:53, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Not sure if you saw my response on my page. I think maybe DC has acquired about a dozen companies and a dozen characters each, so that's 144 characters. Is there a comparable situation on the Marvel side?
 * Roygbiv666 18:20, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to Tranquility Vol 1 1
Hi. This is actually a trade paperback, not the first issue of the series...
 * Roygbiv666 03:09, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Character Template - Creator
Hey, any chance of getting the Character Template updated like the Marvel side to show the Creator of the character and have it autocategorize under "Category:So-and-so/Creator"?
 * Roygbiv666 18:17, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Template:Roygbiv666 Concept
SOrry to keep bugging you, but ... I'm stoopid. I was trying to modify the "Item Template" into a "Concept Template" (for using to describe concepts and terms, like Pre-Crisis or Post-Crisis, etc.), but I think I dropped a div somewhere. Basically, it should look the same as the Item Template, but I just deleted a bunch of stuff in the middle. ideas? thx
 * Roygbiv666 21:09, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Quotes Hiccup
I don't know if this is solvable... and if not, whatever, there's always good old-fashioned copy pasting.

So, I was looking at the Quotes Category for one of my old favorites, The Vigilante. And remembering some old quotes I had entered, I was curious as to why they weren't there. There's this neat little speech I wrote into the synopsis section of, that doesn't show up. I think, because it's a category, that if you have two or more quotes on the same page, it only puts the first one into the category. Just thought I'd alert you.
 * - Billy Arrowsmith (Talk), 09:18, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Can you maybe check this out?
Received a message from User:The Paradox at the bottom of my talk page. Figure this is more your territory than mine. Thanks! --Brian Kurtz 20:19, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Character template
I've been trying to put together a version of the Character Template that lists all the available parameters and whether or not they're optional. My results can be seen at User:The Paradox/Character template. If you wouldn't mind taking a look at it and adding any that I've missed I would appreciate it. I've also started a discussion at DC Database talk:Character Template that may eventually need the attention of an admin. The Paradox 20:21, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey, no talkback template. Anyway, since I prefer to keep discussions centrally located, I've replied on my talk page. The Paradox 00:20, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Reality v Universe
In the context of templates and categorization, what is the difference between Category:Realities and Category:Universes? They seem to be redundant, with all the Universe entries manually added, whereas the Realities are autocategorized ("autocat-ed") by the various Character, Location and Reality templates. Are there other conceptual or practical differences that I'm not seeing? If not, then perhaps they could/should be combined. The Paradox 18:47, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


 * (I've really got to get this template created...) The Paradox 20:17, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Mars survey
As one of the regular contributors around here, you may wish to weigh in on the renaming motion at Talk:Ma'aleca'andra. The Paradox 02:30, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

DC Database:Reality Template
Excellent update! While you're at it, perhaps you can figure out/explain to me/correct the tendency for references to be listed in the Notes section. At this point, I'm having to hack in a under Links. See the last couple of edits to Earth-13 for an example of the difference. Obviously, I think the references should appear at the end of the page, since a lot of the citations I'm adding are in the Trivia section. The Paradox 23:35, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

(and thanks for the talkback template as well)

DC Database:Team Template
When you get a chance, could you look at the Creators, First, Last and Links fields? They aren't behaving the way I expect them to. The Creators is showing only the first entry, First and Last aren't linking to the issue, and the Links are showing up twice. Take a look at Justice Experience to see what I mean. It's one of the protected templates, so it requires the hand of an admin. The Paradox 10:17, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Show vs. Hide
It's really nifty that we have that Show/Hide option in like the minor character templates and the crossover templates, but is there anyway we can choose to have it show automatically instead of hide automatically? Because, like with the minor characters, it would be nice to see them immediately when you're on the page. It doesn't seem to always happen, but it auto-hides them a lot. And there are some situations with the crossover template, for example in Template:Bloodlines RR where I would rather have it immediately showing, because I inserted it in the crossover stub (Template:Bloodlines). It's fine if you can't get back to me for awhile though, you have a lot on your plate already, and you've been doing a lot of fantastic and important things lately.
 * - Billy Arrowsmith (Talk), 23:31, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Falsely Moved Pages
So, there's this guy who, with the best interests at heart I'm sure, keeps on moving character pages to new things of his own free will and not moving any of the subpages. So, we have disasters lying around like Category:Roy Harper (New Earth)/Appearances and Category:Roy Harper Jr. (New Earth)/Appearances. I know that your bots are smart enough to move all of these pages by themselves, but I was actually wondering if you wouldn't mind moving a couple of these pages back? For example, Roy Harper never goes by Junior, as he was abandoned on a Navajo reservation and his father has never showed up in comics. Would you mind moving Roy Harper Jr. (New Earth) back to Roy Harper (New Earth)? (the punctuation on that one is false anyway, so it needs to be moved regardless). And Goodness (New Earth) should be put back at Granny Goodness (New Earth) as it's her full name, not a title.
 * - Billy Arrowsmith (Talk), 20:06, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

New Earth cat listings
Any objection to my restoring the Defaultsort on this article? It allows for New Earth to be listed first, under 'E', in the list of alternate Earths in categories instead of off by itself under 'N' (e.g. Category:Realities vs Category:Characters). The Paradox 23:23, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Nope, sorry bout that, wasn't thinking. :)
 * &mdash; Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talk &bull; contribs &bull; email) 23:25, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Character Templates
Hey, thanks for fixing things up; you really earn the nickname "friendly neighbourhood admin." I think there's a minor typo, however, the Character Template; it looks like a colon is missing somewhere in the switching for the "AlienRace = " field. In the infobox, the Race is showing up as a redlink. (see Kal-El (New Earth) for example.) Thanks! The Paradox 02:45, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Wow, you've been busy today; I can't even track all the template updates you've made. I've been testing some of the Character ones on Alan Scott (New Earth) (he's good for that with his multiversal origins, one eye and dead first wife), and found a few formatting things that could be tweaked. Specifically, the Eye(s) and MaritalStatus2. I'm not sure if category redirects work like article ones do; if they in fact forward entries, then redirecting Cat:One Eyes to Cat:One Eye might be a quick and simple fix.
 * Next, I delve into the Reality Template!! The Paradox 19:36, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem. I've been slacking off on the DC side of things, so I'm trying to make up for it.  You guys deserve just as much customization and usefullness out of the templates as Marvel gets. :)
 * I tried to explain how the new stuff works on the character template talk page, but testing like you were is probably the best way to learn it. check out the changes I made to Alan to see how I incorporated that information.  I think he could be autocategorized under 'One Eye' if 'one eye' was in his unusual features section too.  (I know left eye is in there, but not the specific phrase 'one eye', which I believe is the keyword).
 * I'm probably too far ahead on this side now, and need to get Marvel up to speed on these things. Though we don't often have the same quirkyness as you guys over there, since I haven't seen a character with two Universe origins yet. :)
 * Hope those changes work out better for ya.
 * &mdash; Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talk &bull; contribs &bull; email) 19:56, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * It's even worse than that. If I'm interpreting things correctly, we have three versions of Alan Scott (and most other E-Two characters); the Pre-COIE version that existed on E-Two, the New Earth version that incorporates much of the E-Two history, and the new Earth-2 one that is a direct continuation of the Pre-COIE Earth-Two version. How does one write up a history text for that? Oy. The Paradox 20:28, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * It's a lot of work, that's for sure. The real question is which version of each of those pretty much the same characters were in any specific comic?  Who was in the first appearance?
 * If it were me, I'd separate them into three character pages, and refer to the other two on each. Whoever is the main character, probably the New Earth one, would have the full history, and I'd just make the other two minor characters, referring back to the New Earth History for theirs, up until the histories changed. Kinda like: "Alan of Earth-Two had much the same history as Alan of New Earth, up until ______, which is completely different because _______."
 * But I don't know if you guys give every character their own character page. That's how its pretty much always done on Marvel, which is why we have 10,000 characters.  I'm sure DC would topple that easily if every little character got their own page, considering DC has about 20 years of lead on Marvel anyway. :)
 * &mdash; Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talk &bull; contribs &bull; email) 20:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * It's really difficult for me to think of Earth-Two characters as Minor given they were the originals and have over 45 years of publishing history before COIE. I've got some idea of how to handle it, but as you say it's a lot of work and I'm pretty much putting off for the moment while I deal with the minor realities and their populations. Vertigo and licensed properties are great for that. The Paradox 20:43, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * PS - Rather than listing each and every Vertigo reality as a Hypertime Reality, I'm thinking about just placing Category:Vertigo into Category:Realities and Category:Hypertime Realities. That's one of the reasons why there's suddenly a lot of subcats in Category:Vertigo, so it can double as storylines and reality cats. The Paradox 20:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Movie -> Film
Um, is everything being switched over to Film? 'Cause Movie seems to be used pretty consistently here, mixing the two will be confusing and there's a lot of articles and categories that this will impact. The Paradox 14:55, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Alternate Company Pages
Do we really have to actually delete those? Not all of the pages were finished, but they did have a purpose. Although in most scenarios people looking for information about other comics companies should be looking at the other Databases, I made those pages so that we could have a direct reference for whenever those companies interacted with DC. For example, the Dark Horse Comics page contained a list of all crossovers between Dark Horse and DC. Could we get those put back?
 * - Billy Arrowsmith (Talk), 17:23, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Era Changing Bot
Just a heads up, you should probably finetune that one. I caught it changing the Captain Comet page to say that he appeared shortly before the "Silver-Age Characters" instead of "Silver Age", which is in his notes and not the categories.
 * - Billy Arrowsmith (Talk), 23:54, 26 September 2008 (UTC)