Thread:Lordofninjas1/@comment-1038387-20171010212147/@comment-4276072-20171015182100

Tupka217 wrote: Static Shock is not Dakotaverse, it's DCAU. Static was part of the Dakotaverse, which was a generally acceptable fan designation from before the wiki existed. We don't call it Static Shock Universe because a) his name is not Static Shock and b) what about Icon, Hardware, the Blood Syndicate and all the others? If we made it today, it would be called (Milestone Universe).

The -Verse designations are from the early days and should not be used for new universes. There just hasn't been any good other names suggested. In the case of Donner, Nolan and Burton it's not that bad as those films are generally connected to them (even though Burton didn't do the last two of his verse). But the Flarrowverse is just as much Guggenheim as it is Berlanti.

We made the Arrow pages when it was just Arrow, before Flash entered the scene. We considered renaming it "Arrowverse", but moving all of the pages to a new designation that still didn't acknowledge the Flash, LoT and others just wasn't worth the hassle.

There are plenty of universe designation relics out there. Apart from the -Verse ones, there's Earth-ABC and LSHAU, to name some survivors. We'd call that (ABC Universe) and (Legion of Super-Heroes TV Series) today, but they're not a high priority for renaming.

I understand the Static Shock show is DCAU, I apologize for the misunderstanding, I just have a habit of referring to the character himself as Static Shock even though I know his name is just Static, I still refer to Billy Batson as Captain Marvel and similarly Carol Danvers from Marvel Comics I call Ms. Marvel, even though now they are Shazam and Captain Marvel respectively. that is my bad.

why should the -verse designations not be used anymore for new universes? not meaning to be rude, but I've noticed a lot of times you state things without giving an example or evidence or whatever as to why you stated that, which causes conversations like this to continue on and such, as we aren't getting the full understanding of what you are saying and why you are saying it and such... plus if someone really wanted to be annoying they could just do the childish "ask why about everything" thing. you seem to state it more as a "matter of fact" or a "because I said so" without really letting us know why you feel its a matter of fact or why you say so. the -verse names still seem just as viable (if not more so) today than ever before (hence Arrowverse/Berlantiverse/Flarrowverse/CWverse (I've seen that one floating around a few times), just as an example. while I understand the Arrowverse is as much Guggenheim as it is Berlanti the terminology being thrown around is Berlantiverse and not Guggenverse or Guggenheimverse, which is why I stated that.

while the name "Arrowverse" itself seems to only refer to Arrow, to fans and most outside readers who know very little to nothing about comics hearing the name "Arrowverse" to them immediately incorporates all the shows into one. if you are so adamant as to find one that incorporates all of them, why not try something like "CW Superhero Universe" or "CW Television Universe" or "DCCW" or something like that, while I understand that shows like IZombie are DC (well technically Vertigo, but that's still DC for all intents and purposes) and on the CW most don't associate IZombie with DC Comics or with Comics at all. note that I'm not saying you should move it to those or that you must or anything, simply that, if you ever feel like starting up another discussion about it at some point or whatever to keep these in mind and suggest them and whatever.

I understand that some of those naming things may be considered Relics, but if you don't want people suggesting naming schemes or stuff like that it might be a good idea to update them so that people don't see those and think they are ok to name things like that, if that makes any sense. again not stating you have to, just a suggestion to help you guys out and ease some of the pain with stuff like this.