Talk:Orm Marius (Prime Earth)

Alignment
Let's settle this: Orm is no longer a bad guy in the New 52, as you can clearly see in Throne of Atlantis and his Forever Evil tie-in. He's simply neutral: he doesn't really like or trust surface dwellers, but he doesn't do anything against them if he's not provoked. His only "villainous act" is what he thought was a legitimate counterattack, he was tricked into believing Atlantis was under gratuitous attack from the surface. Later, in Forever Evil (when he could have taken the opportunity to attack if he was still a bad guy), let's remember he went out of his way to save a human kid, on his own free will.

So, it's clear to me that he is Neutral now. There's no reason to say his alignment is Bad, because it no longer is. At the start of Throne of Atlantis, we were simply tricked into believing it still was, for the sake of the plot twist (that it's not; if anything, Vulko's is). - Ver-mont (talk) 14:56, March 18, 2014 (UTC)