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Fury of Firestorm Vol 1 1 to Fury of Firestorm Vol 2 1
We had this discussion before, I still think it should be Vol 2. Firestorm Vol 2 is actually Fury of Firestorm Vol 1. -- Tupka 217 22:38, July 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree. Before Firestorm Vol 2 it was renamed to plain "Firestorm" it WAS The Fury of Firestorm Vol 1. It's like counting Aquaman Vol 7 as Vol 6 just because the real Vol 6 got renamed to "Aquaman: Sword of Atlantis". Smash Brawler 23:31, September 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * I also agree. I was very confused at this one being called volume 1. That is incorrect. Goblyn4evil 22:30, December 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't it be even more accurate to have it at Fury of Firestorm: The Nuclear Men Vol 1? Kyletheobald 03:02, December 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Since it's marketed on DC's website that way, I''d say yes.--08:34, December 17, 2011 (UTC)Tupka 217


 * I would agree as well. Popluvah22 04:31, February 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * How about this. Firestorm Vol 2 to Fury of Firestorm Vol 1, and Fury of Firestorm Vol 1] to Fury of Firestorm Vol 2? I don't want to have to distinguish between "the nuclear man" and "the nuclear men" when it's really the same book anyway. - Hatebunny (talk) 19:35, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Aquaman Secret Files and Origins Vol 1 2003 to Aquaman Secret Files and Origins 2003
"2003" is not an issue number in this case, it is part of the title. Alternates would be Aquaman Secret Files and Origins 2003 Vol 1 or (worse since there is no issue number) Aquaman Secret Files and Origins 2003 Vol 1 1

- Byfield 00:04, October 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * SF&O naming is a tricky business, it's more than this issue. We might have to reconsider all of it. --Tupka 217 07:19, October 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think I've moved this already, but here's my piece on this subject:
 * I think SF&O books which are listed by year should be treated as one-shots in both naming and page info. No volume or issue information. The book's volume page will still list it and any other SF&O books in order, and we can still use prev/next fields to handle the chronology of their publication. If they are numbered, we can treat them like their own volume (I think most are by year, though). - Hatebunny (talk) 15:26, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Seven Soldiers
The current (New Earth) page is an out of universe and outdated writeup of all incarnations (probably a wikipedia rip, haven't checked). The (Earth-Two) page covers the team that has made plenty of post-crisis appearances. So I and II make more sense than Earth designations. --Tupka 217 (talk 16:14, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Batman: The Brave and The Bold Vol 1 to Batman: The Brave and the Bold Vol 1
Can we get these flipped so we have the proper capitalization in place? It would also match the title for the show at that point. This will also affect the 22 issues and all related categories.

- Byfield 16:08, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Gaige (New Earth) to Gaige (Earth-Two)
He's had one appearance. There was a new Tiger Shark introduced in, that one can be Tiger Shark (New Earth). I haven't read the new yet, but is that another version? -- Tupka 217 17:53, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Thomas Morita (Earth-Two) to Thomas Morita (New Earth)
He's made New Earth appearances as a ghost in Justice Society of America Vol 3. Kyletheobald (talk) 02:35, September 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Agreed. -- Tupka 217 18:22, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

Talokians to Talokites
Once again showing why you should be cautious with unsourced mass page creation, they're called Talokites in. -- Tupka 217 18:22, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

Rainmaker (Earth-Two) to Parker Allen (Earth-Two)
This is another one I'm unsure on but the page had a real name listed. Kyletheobald (talk) 15:10, September 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Going by the history, I moved it back when I was doing the Image Needed sweep. That probably means only his last name was revealed (Professor Allen or something) - whoever made all those articles worked off a list (presumably Mike's Indexes) that has some questionable content. I'd have to check to be sure, but I think it shouldn't be moved. -- Tupka 217 15:22, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

Unimate (New Earth) to Unimate
If its an item, it doesn't really need the New Earth designation. Kyletheobald (talk) 16:40, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Armageddon (Earth-Two) to Armageddon (New Earth)
Seen in Wonder Woman Vol 2 185. Kyletheobald (talk) 04:28, October 1, 2012 (UTC)

Hop Harrigan (Earth-Two) to Hop Harrigan (New Earth)
Shows up in an issue of Young All-Stars, which is Post-Crisis. Kyletheobald (talk) 04:28, October 1, 2012 (UTC)

Dr. Morlo (New Earth) to Morlo (New Earth)
Dr. sucks. Its as bad a Mr. Kyletheobald (talk) 20:09, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Reach (New Earth) to Reach II (New Earth)
And in the process, move Reach to something else (Reach (New Earth)?). We now have two alternate universe Reaches, and this Reach II. -- Tupka 217 10:19, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Nebel (Earth-Two) to Nebel (New Earth)
Appears in Young Justice Vol 1 50. Kyletheobald (talk) 03:26, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Nacht (Earth-Two) to Nacht (New Earth)
Same as Nebel. Kyletheobald (talk) 03:43, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Remington Cord (Earth-One) to Remington Cord (New Earth)
According to this, Cord has at least three Post-Crisis appearances.DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 19:58, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Carrie Gordon (Ame-Comi) to Carrie Kelley (Ame-Comi)
Her last name was confirmed to be Kelley in the Ame-Comi ongoing. Batgorilla (talk) 06:44, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Bazilia (New Earth) to Bazilia
This place doesn't need the New Earth designation. --MrTomax (talk) 10:26, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Jack of Fire (New Earth) to John Cassidy (New Earth)
Revealed in Shadowpact Vol 1 23. Kyletheobald (talk) 05:29, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Mrs. Prescott (New Earth) to Adeline Prescott (New Earth)
Shown in Shadowpact Vol 1 25. Kyletheobald (talk) 15:42, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Deadfall
Deadfalls I and II need their numbers swapped. -- Tupka 217 22:33, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Otis (Smallville) to Otis Berg (Smallville)
Because it is his name --JimmyOlsen (talk) 16:48, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

Catherine Grant (Smallville) to Mary Louise Shroger (Smallville)
It's her real name. Cat Grant is just an alias --JimmyOlsen (talk) 16:48, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

Catherine Grant S9 (Smallville) to Catherine Grant (Smallville)
Well, she's the "real" Cat Grant of "Smallville". But Catherine Grant must be first moved to Mary Louise Shroger. --JimmyOlsen (talk) 16:48, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

Batman Beyond Episode: Rebirth, Part I, Batman Beyond Episode: Rebirth, Part II to Batman Beyond Episode: Rebirth
As I understand it, standard procedure is to have multiple part episodes all under one page. In this sense, the two parts to the Batman Beyond episode "Rebirth" should be covered under one page and not two. LoveWaffle (talk) 00:52, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

Ace the Bat-Hound (DCAU) to Ace (DCAU)
Simply, "the Bat-Hound" is not something ever used. LoveWaffle (talk) 22:32, January 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * Nope. There's various RFG Aces too in the DCAU. -- Tupka 217 22:04, January 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Does that excuse improperly titling a page? - LoveWaffle (talk) 19:58, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Superman (1996 TV Series) Episode: Blasts From the Past, Part I to Superman (1996 TV Series) Episode: Blasts From the Past
Per the same reasoning I give above with the Batman Beyond "Rebirth" episodes. LoveWaffle (talk) 22:32, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Mala II (Earth-Two) to Mala (Kryptonian) (Earth-Two)
See here LoveWaffle (talk) 22:32, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Interceptor (Green Lantern Animated Series) to Interceptor
Since the page is for a vehicle, the "(Green Lantern Animated Series)" is unnecessary. LoveWaffle (talk) 22:32, January 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * Agreed. -- Tupka 217 22:04, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

=== Superman TAS Episode: The Last Son of Krypton, Part I, Superman TAS Episode: The Last Son of Krypton, Part II and Superman TAS Episode: The Last Son of Krypton, Part III to Superman (1996 TV Series) Episode: The Last of Son of Krypton === Per the same reasoning given for the Batman Beyond episodes "Rebirth" and Superman episodes "Blasts from the Past". Furthermore, the show's episodes need to be labeled "Superman (1996 TV Series)" as opposed to "Superman TAS". Side: should the same be done for the multitude of Batman: The Animated Series episodes? LoveWaffle (talk) 22:32, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Superman TAS Episode: Tools of the Trade to Superman (1996 TV Series) Episode: Tools of the Trade
Per some of the reasoning given with "The Last Son of Krypton" episodes. LoveWaffle (talk) 22:32, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Starling City to Star City
Starling City is the version of Star City that appears in the Arrow TV Series. The page for Starling City isn't needed. LoveWaffle (talk) 08:07, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Gerry McWilliams (New Earth) to Gerald McWilliams (New Earth)
Full name revealed in. Kyletheobald (talk) 21:54, January 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * No contest. -- Tupka 217 22:04, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Firebug II (New Earth) to Firebug III (New Earth)
Chronologically, this guy is third, debuting 2 years after Harlan Combs. Problem may be Firebug IV, who appears in a flashback story that may take place before Harlan or III. -- Tupka 217 00:12, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Harvest (New Earth) to Harvest II (New Earth)
The first Harvest, which Billy mentioned in his last edit to the disambig, was a BoP villain. Appeared in issues #77-78, a year before this one. -- Tupka 217 17:48, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Blackhawk Squadron to Blackhawk Squadron (New Earth)
There are a few versions of the Blackhawk Squadron. I guess we need a disambig page for them. So, the Blackhawk Squadron page need to be moved so we can create a disambig page. --JimmyOlsen (talk) 14:04, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Superman (1996 TV Series) Episode: The Prometheon to Superman (1996 TV Series) Episode: The Promethon
Although "Prometheon" is normally correct, the title of the episode (and the creature it refers to) are called "Promethon" LoveWaffle (talk) 19:55, January 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * Is it? I checked on my DVD, and the menu and title card do call it Prometheon. Also, the creature itself is never named. -- Tupka 217 22:15, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Yo-Yo II (New Earth) to Yo-Yo (New Earth)
She doesn't need the II any longer since we moved the other Yo-Yo to Prime Earth. Kyletheobald (talk) 14:41, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Section 8 to Section Eight
When I started Hitman, the appearances were split between 8 and Eight so I just moved them to the one with the most linked there. Turns out that was the wrong one. Its spelled out in appearances instead of the number. Kyletheobald (talk) 14:19, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Laira (New Earth) to Laira Omoto (New Earth)
I distinctly remember this being put up for a move earlier. -- Tupka 217 22:10, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Batman (Earth-10) to Leatherwing (Earth-10)
We've had a discussion about his name before, and then decided there wasn't a source for it. Turns out there is - in Overman's profile in. -- Tupka 217 15:07, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Merrymaker (Prime Earth) to Byron Merideth (Prime Earth)
Dr. Meredith is Merrymaker's true identity as detailed in Detective Comics Vol 2 17. --- Harold "The Party" Rocks  talk  22:07, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

Diamond Jack (Earth-S) to Diamond Jack II (Earth-S)
There was a hero named Diamond Jack at Fawcett starting in 1940, three years before this character. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 04:09, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

Slick (Dakotaverse) to Reginald Hazlewood (Dakotaverse)
Real name revealed in Kobalt #6. -- Tupka 217 19:44, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hal Jordan (Green Lantern Animated Series) to Harold Jordan (Green Lantern Animated Series)
Character's real name LoveWaffle (talk) 22:54, February 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * We're not really strict on that when it comes to Hal, especially since Harold Jordan is also another character (even though he's probably not going to appear. I guess the same goes for Bartholomew/Barry Allen. -- Tupka 217 14:04, February 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * True, but "Hal" is still a diminutive of "Harold".
 * LoveWaffle (talk) 21:13, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

The Light (Earth-16) to Light (Earth-16)
Titles to articles are not supposed to start with the word "The" LoveWaffle (talk) 21:10, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Kitty Kowalski (Superman Returns) to Katherine Kowalski (Superman Returns)
Katherine is her real name. JimmyOlsen (talk) 15:29, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

===Earth-16 to Earth 16=== To quote the community message:
 * For characters appearing in other universes, the current convention is not to use a hyphen (so, "Earth 2" rather than "Earth-2").

LoveWaffle (talk) 03:23, February 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm going to disagree with this one. Earth-16 hasn't been shown to be part of the new multiverse. As confusing as it may be, not every book/alternate universe DC publishes, is part of the current, ongoing multiverse. Kyletheobald (talk) 03:39, February 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * Isn't it part of the multiverse by virtue of simple existing?
 * LoveWaffle (talk) 03:42, February 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * It should stay the way it is. Like Kyle said, Earth-16 isn't part of the new DC Multiverse. JimmyOlsen (talk) 13:52, February 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, nothing changed to this part of the multiverse. The same goes for the new Earth-1 and Earth-40 comics. The only dashless Earths are Earth 2 and Earth 23. -- Tupka 217 14:21, February 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't understand - if it's convention, why is it not used universally?
 * LoveWaffle (talk) 19:40, February 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * Because those worlds are part of the post 52, pre-New 52 multiverse. Earth-Two (1938-1985), Earth-2 (2007-2011) and Earth 2 (2011-onward) are three different worlds. Earth-1 (from Earth One books) Earth-40 (from the Whistling Skull) and Earth-16 (from Young Justice) were conceived during the "dash-numeral" era, and aren't retconned following the companywide reboot, they're still the old worlds. If a rebooted Young Justice were to appear, then it would be Earth 16. But Earth-16 doesn't change into Earth 16. -- Tupka 217 19:51, February 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * I suppose that makes sense.
 * LoveWaffle (talk) 20:02, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Sea Devils to Sea Devils (New Earth)

 * To make way for a disambig. There is at least New Earth, Prime Earth, Earth-9, and Sea Devils Vol 1 and Tangent Sea Devils Vol 1. Kyletheobald (talk) 16:37, March 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * And Earth-21. -- Tupka 217 16:55, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

Terror Titans to Terror Titans (New Earth)

 * Disambig again. At least 3 versions including New Earth, Tiny Titans, and Vol 1. Kyletheobald (talk) 07:08, March 8, 2013 (UTC)

Shayera Hol (Injustice: Gods Among Us) to Shiera Hall (Injustice: Gods Among Us)
Character's real name - (click on Hawkgirl's bio) LoveWaffle (talk) 04:12, March 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Character's real name - (click on Hawkgirl). Shayera Hol.


 * Maybe we should just move it to Hawkgirl (Injustice: Gods Among Us) instead until the game itself clears things up. -- Tupka 217 19:06, March 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * You'll notice whomever built the website just linked to Hawkgirl's generic entry on DC Comics website - . VERBATIM.
 * So the bio that identifies her as Shayera wasn't written by anyone involved with the game, and probably predates it.
 * LoveWaffle (talk) 19:18, March 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Of course I noticed that. Still, let's wait until things clear up. -- Tupka 217 19:45, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Ridge (Prime Earth) to Edgar Ridgely (Prime Earth)

 * Considering that his real name is revealed in Ravagers Vol 1 10, this article's title should be changed to Ridge's real name for the sake of consistency in regards to the Naming Conventions. Cari1994 (talk) 21:41, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Rudolph Jones (Earth-16) to Raymond Jensen (Earth-16)
Character's real name, via Greg Weisman himself - LoveWaffle (talk) 03:13, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

Mount Justice (Earth-16) to Mount Justice
Since this is a location, the "(Earth-16)" is unnecessary. LoveWaffle (talk) 04:42, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Especially since it's pretty much the same as mainstream. -- Tupka 217 14:31, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

Sarah Lance (Arrow) to Sara Lance (Arrow)
Correct spelling of character's name, revealed via press releases for "The Huntress Returns" and "Salvation" -

Superdoom (Superdoom) to Superdoom (Prime Earth)
I argue against this move. He is self-evidently the product of another universe, just one we don't know yet. CaptainKobold (talk) 10:16, March 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * Agreed. -- Tupka 217 10:23, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

Farm League (Shorts) to DC Nation's Farm League (Shorts)
The shorts are introduced each episode as "DC Nation's: Farm League." It's not a major change, but the new title is technically its series name. --- Harold "The Party" Rocks  talk  15:27, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

Earl Sanderson, Jr. (New Earth) to Cassius Bannister (Earth-One)
Where does the Sanderson name come from? He's pretty explicitly called Cassius Bannister in All-Out War. -- Tupka 217 09:00, March 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Upon a bit of more research: "Earl Sanderson, Jr" is a Marvel character called Black Eagle, who's also with the Tuskegee airmen. Manually moving it. -- Tupka 217 09:06, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Scarab (Shazam!/Isis Hour) to Scarab (Earth-S)
If I'm not mistaken, the comic book version of Isis published by DC in the '70s is considered an Earth-S character. This would place Scarab on Earth-S, as well. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 18:33, March 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * The Isis comic is a tie-in to the Shazam!/Isis Hour. Isis did appear in one issue of ''Shazam, but that is a separate, Earth-S version. The "regular" comic is part of the Shazam!/Isis Hour continuity family. -- Tupka 217 18:54, March 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 19:18, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Dark Circle to Dark Circle (Pre-Zero Hour)
Move for disambig. There's a Dark Circle (Earth-One) and a Dark Circle (LSHAU). -- Tupka 217 21:37, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

President Marlo (New Earth) to Hurrambi Marlo (New Earth)
First name given in. -- Tupka 217 13:30, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

A.R.G.U.S. to A.R.G.U.S. (Prime Earth)
A.R.G.U.S. is also a part of the TV series Arrow, so we need a disambig page for the different versions. JimmyOlsen (talk) 22:52, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Hippolyta Trevor-Hall (New Earth) to Hippolyta Trevor (New Earth)
Even though I'm not a huge fan of it, our convention is maiden names. So, we should remove Hall.Kyletheobald (talk) 03:17, April 11, 2013 (UTC)

Ame-Comi Girls Vol 1 to Ame-Comi Girls: Featuring Vol 1
I believe the page at its current title is prone to causing some confusion here. I did my best to edit in an explanation, but basically this "Ame-Comi Girls" series is used in multiple series. Comicvine kinda displays how it worked. Initially 5 female chars each had their own small 3-part series. It was simply called "Ame-Comi", numbered, with their name, and then which of 3 parts it was.

This was followed by a 7-part series where the phrase "Ame-Comi Girls" was used to illustrate that it was a massive crossover event about all 5 girls (plus a bunch of other ones).

What I believe this "Featuring" series did, besides adding "Girls" to the initial "Ame-Comi" line, was collect each 3-part series into a single publication. I think that's because the 3-part series were released in digital format and perhaps this series was released in printed format. So each part was made a chapter.

I think the 7-part 'girls' crossover may have occurred before this though, and it is the title that really needs a list page to keep track of.

I have a correction to make, I thought it was 7 parts but it's actually a lot more. Here there's apparently at least 24 issues of it. I'm going to write out these titles because I think we actually are missing articles for all of them:
 * 1) Rise of the Brainiac, Part 1
 * 2) Rise of the Brainiac, Part 2
 * 3) Rise of the Brainiac, Part 3
 * 4) Rise of the Brainiac, Part 4
 * 5) Rise of the Brainiac, Part 5
 * 6) Rise of the Brainiac, Part 6
 * 7) The Chosen, Part 1
 * 8) The Chosen, Part 2
 * 9) The Chosen, Part 3
 * 10) The Chosen, Part 4
 * 11) The Chosen, Part 5
 * 12) The Chosen, Part 6
 * 13) The Chosen, Part 7
 * 14) The Chosen, Part 8
 * 15) The Chosen, Part 9
 * 16) Earth in Crisis, Part 1
 * 17) Earth in Crisis, Part 2
 * 18) Earth in Crisis, Part 3
 * 19) The Teen Hellions. Part 1
 * 20) The Teen Hellions. Part 2
 * 21) The Teen Hellions. Part 3
 * 22) Big Barda and the Space Pirates
 * 23) White Canary vs Pinky Violence
 * 24) Mera, Queen of Atlantis

Basically where the page is currently located, I think we should be keeping track of THESE stories, and the 5-part series which compiles the 5 distinct preceding 3-part series (15 total parts) should be moved at the "featured" title which is more of a second volume of the "girls" line since "girls" primarily refers to the following series featuring all the girl heroes collectively. +Yc 14:57, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Sportsmaster (The Brave and the Bold) to Lawrence Crock (The Brave and the Bold)
With Huntress and Tigress as wife and kid, there's no doubt that this is Crusher. -- Tupka 217 21:39, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Eve Teshmacher (Tiny Titans) to Eve Teschmacher (Tiny Titans)
According to the new issue her name isn't Teshmacher anymore. Seems like it was just a writing error. So she needs to be moved to Teschmacher. JimmyOlsen (talk) 22:33, April 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * One image, one appearance. Done manually. -- Tupka 217 22:42, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

Henchman and Glossary:Henchmen and Henchmen to Henchpeople
Consistency with the category. -- Tupka 217 19:54, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

Branden (Batman: Year One) to Branden (Year One Movie)
Because every character is (Year One Movie) and not (Batman: Year One). JimmyOlsen (talk) 08:40, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

David Zavimbe (New Earth) to David Zavimbi (New Earth)
The New Earth version, however brief his existence, was named Zavimbi. Judd Winick changed his name to Zavimbe after the reboot. Now that Zavimbe has a Prime Earth page, Zavimbi should get his real name back. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 17:04, May 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Fine by me. Has there been any clarification on the name change? Also, do we consider the "Desmond" from Batman Inc a goof? -- Tupka 217 17:52, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

I think the reference to "Desmond Zavimbi" in the Leviathan Strikes one-shot was probably an error. The change to Zavimbe might also have been a mistake, but it has stuck. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 01:40, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Reactron (Earth-One) to Benjamin Krullen (Earth-One)
Named Ben Krullen in Supergirl Vol 2 9. -- Tupka 217 17:59, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

Teen Titans Go! (TV Series) Episode: Raven's Daddy Dearest to Teen Titans Go! (TV Series) Episode: Dog Hand
The TV guide called it Raven's Daddy Dearest, but the actual episode introduces it as "Dog Hand." --- Harold "The Party" Rocks  talk  19:11, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

Department of Extranormal Operations to Department of Extranormal Operations (New Earth)
There is a "Smallville" version of the D.E.O. We should move the New Earth version and create a disambig page. JimmyOlsen (talk) 16:35, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Nommo Balewa (New Earth) to Nommo (New Earth)
As his surname is New 52, back to his old page. -- Tupka 217 14:42, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Johnny Vitti (New Earth) to Johnny Viti (New Earth)
The Viti family only has one t in their surname. -- Tupka 217 07:59, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Aztar (Earth-22) to Jim Corrigan (Earth-22)
The story makes no mention of "Aztar" and the Spectre is like a "Angel" and that the Spectre is just Jim Corrigan (who has lost contact to his humanity in his time as a higher being)! Tomob.

Myand'r (New Earth) to Mythus (New Earth)
Per the backup feature in New Teen Titans Vol 2 15, his birth name is Mythus. -- Tupka 217 12:39, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

Sea Wolf (New Earth) to Lawrence Huffman (New Earth)
For naming consistency. We've got a real name for the character, so it should be under that.

In the interim, I've changed the link in Aquaman to point to the article.

- Byfield (talk) 15:48, June 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * First off, the name in the issue was Lawrence Huff. My impression from the issue is that he absorbed the personalities of the people he killed. It just happened that Lawrence Huff was the dominant personality at the time.  At the end of the issue, he calls himself Albert Munson, the person he killed earlier in the issue.  All that leads me to believe his name is still unknown. Kyletheobald (talk) 16:06, June 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that this was a different character than the Axis Amerika version.
 * - Billy Arrowsmith (Talk), 16:18, June 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * It may well be. Right now, based on what is in place, "Sea Wolf" has been present in 3 different series:
 * Young All-Stars (#1-6 in 1987 and #22-25 in 1989 which coincide with the Who's Who issues)
 * Aquaman vol 6 (the character image is sourced to vol 5 #42 in 1998 and vol 6 #37 has an appearance in 2006)
 * Freedom Fighters (vol 2, #5 in 2011)
 * It looks like there was an attempt to string them together for the bio. Which may not be wrong. Taking the text on faith, the FF story references the the YAS material and the Aquaman appearance used the same costume, right down to the Nazt emblem.
 * If the implication from the Aquaman story is multiple personalities or a a consumption of others, then the infobox needs a tweak, which I'm fine with.
 * - Byfield (talk) 19:41, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

Synnar (New Earth) to Synnar II (New Earth)
I want to make a page for the unrelated Synnar in Jemm, Son of Saturn. Kyletheobald (talk) 22:51, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

Teen Titans Go! (TV Series) Episode: You're Fired to Teen Titans Go! (TV Series) Episode: You're Fired!
Not a big difference, but the episode officially introduces itself with a "!". --- Harold "The Party" Rocks  talk  11:14, June 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Bored. Did it manually. -- Tupka 217 11:18, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Antinoos (New Earth) to Antinoös (New Earth)
I know there are people who don't like diacritics, but that's what his name is spelled in his first appearance. So it's Antino-os, not anti-noose. -- Tupka 217 09:38, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Harold Kent, Jr. (New Earth) to Harry Kent (New Earth)
Adventures of Superman only calls him Harry. In World of Smallville, Harry and Jon's father is Sam, not Harold Sr. So unless a later source retcons this (which I haven't been able to find, but i'll keep looking) this should be at just Harry Kent. -- Tupka 217 20:43, July 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Since World of Smallville lists Harry & Jon'd dad as Sam, definitely not Jr. -- Tupka 217 21:19, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Joanna Pierce (New Earth) to Joanna Tanner (New Earth)
She was born Tanner, but after her parents divorced, she took her mother's name, per BL:YO #1. Same for Alvin Pierce II (New Earth). -- Tupka 217 21:19, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Clark Kent (Smallville Apocalypse) to Clark Kent (Smallville: Apocalypse)
Because Apocalypse is the episode titel of the episode in which the character appeared. (Smallville: Apocalypse) makes more sense than (Smallville Apocalypse). JimmyOlsen (talk) 12:43, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

Wildcat's Motorcycle to Cat-o-Cycle
It's a ridiculous name and I dislike it, but on Earth-Two and Earth-One, Wildcat's bike was called the Cat-o-Cycle. -- Tupka 217 10:20, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Anthony Ives (New Earth) to Anthony Ivo (New Earth)
Unless someone can provide a source otherwise. Kyletheobald (talk) 15:13, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

IIRC, "Ives" comes from Tom Peyer's story in 1999's Secret Origins of Super-Villains 80-Page Giant. I remember thinking it was an odd retcon. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 15:56, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Anthony Ives (Prime Earth) to Anthony Ivo (Prime Earth)
Same reason as above. There's at least one reference to "Anthony Ivo" on Prime Earth besides in Justice League #4. Kyletheobald (talk) 15:13, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Garnet to Garnet (Planet)
There's also a Gemworld character called Garnet. -- Tupka 217 12:23, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Mary Grayson (New Earth) to Mary Loyd (New Earth)
Maiden name given in a photo on the final page of. -- Tupka 217 08:48, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

Riddler (Batman 1966 TV Series) to Edward Nigma (Batman 1966 TV Series)
The Riddler is positively ID'd as Edward Nigma in Batman '66 #1. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 00:06, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Batgirl (Earth-Teen Titans) to Barbara Gordon (Earth-Teen Titans)
See the Batgirl (Earth-Teen Titans) talk page --- Harold "The Party" Rocks  talk  18:39, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * FWIW, I don't see a problem as long as it's tagged with Conjecture - we are making a guess, no matter how likely it is we're right.
 * In that regard, and taking Tupka's comments on the talk page, the other pages should be tagged unless there is an in-story confirmation. I'd also agree with cases like the mentioned adaptations of Raven and Sinestro done prior to a "full name" - it doesn't seem right to apply a later change to the previous uses.
 * - Byfield (talk) 19:59, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Green Team to Green Team (New Earth)
There's enough for a disambig now. Kyletheobald (talk) 17:10, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

Cave Carson Team to Cave Carson's Team
Because language. -- Tupka 217 12:42, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

===Batman of Shanghai Episode: 1 to Batman of Shanghai (Shorts) Episode: Catwoman; Batman of Shanghai Episode: 2 to Batman of Shanghai (Shorts) Episode: Bane; Batman of Shanghai Episode: 3 to Batman of Shanghai (Shorts) Episode: Bat-Man=== The official Cartoon Network video calls them such. --- Harold "The Party" Rocks  talk  11:27, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

Star Rovers to Star Rovers (Earth-One)
Disambig. Kyletheobald (talk) 03:05, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Shadowpact to Shadowpact (New Earth)
There is/was a Shadowpact in the Smallville Continuity too so we need as disambig. JimmyOlsen (talk) 01:22, August 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * Plus one volume makes three, so yeah, it can have a disambig. -- Tupka 217 01:25, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

Comet (Earth-One) to Biron (Earth-One)
Biron's his real name. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 13:07, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

Zook (Earth-One) to Zook (New Earth)
Appears in Superman/Batman 31 and Ambush Bug Year One. Kyletheobald (talk) 04:31, August 26, 2013 (UTC)

Rhonda Pineda (Prime Earth) to Rhonda Pineda (Earth 3)
Since it's been tagged for the move after the release of the relevant issue...

Barring an administrative issue with same day spoilers, we've gotten the reveal so this should be moved to a dab in line with the Nu Earth 2.

Also, Atom is going to need a fix. Or would we keep her as the right top side instead of moving her to the multiverse section?

- Byfield (talk) 03:06, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

Shockwave Armor MK III to Shockwave Armor
More of a streamlining since the current page title implies the need for pages for Shockwave Armor MK I and Shockwave Armor MK II.

The merits of having a the page on its own instead of merging it into Arnold Pruett (New Earth) is a different matter...

- Byfield (talk) 21:22, September 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'd argue that since the Shockwave armor has no significance or appearances aside from those with Pruett, it doesn't even need a page. Kyletheobald (talk) 21:30, September 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Agreed. There was another one of these, Bug Man's Armor, which I already deleted. Essentially, Socialist Red Guardsman Armor can go too. Armors that are always worn don't really need a page. -- Tupka 217 21:52, September 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Good points. I've moved the relevant info off of Shockwave Armor MK III and on to Arnold Pruett (New Earth), de-linked the pages, and tagged them for deletion. - Byfield (talk) 17:11, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * And Socialist Red Guardsman Armor also set for deletion... - Byfield (talk) 15:38, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Sgt. Coker (New Earth) to Coker (New Earth)
Because Sgt. is ugly. Kyletheobald (talk) 13:05, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Concord, Massachusetts to Hanscom Air Force Base
Because half the time, Hanscom is said to be in Concord, and half the time, it's in Bedford. Since neither town really appears and it's only the AFB, let's just put it all there. -- Tupka 217 15:31, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Loki Farbautson (New Earth) to Loki (New Earth)
There's no other Loki. Also, Farbautson is incorrect. It would at least be Fárbautisson or something similar, but more importantly, Fárbauti is his mom, and patronymics follow the father's name, so it would be Laufeyson or Laufeysson. Neither F'sson not L'sson were used by DC, or, to my knowledge, in the Edda.

To a smaller degree, this can also count for Thor and Balder. -- Tupka 217 10:55, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Ariadne of Minos (New Earth) to Ariadne of Knossos (New Earth)
My bad. Minos isn't her hometown, Knossos is. Minos is her dad. -- Tupka 217 12:52, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

Venus to Venus (Planet)
To make way for a disambig. -- Tupka 217 17:22, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

Herakles (Earth-One) to Hercules (Earth-One)
This is exclusively for the 20th Century Hercules, who's a Superman character. As such, he should be at Hercules. -- Tupka 217 18:28, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

Lansarian Morphing Disk to Lansinarian Morphing Disk
The underground realm is called Lansinar, never Lansar. -- Tupka 217 21:36, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

Madame Xanadu (New Earth) to Nimue Inwudu (New Earth)
Her real name, as established in Matt Wagner's Madame Xanadu series. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 23:53, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Steven Trevor (New Earth) to Stephen Trevor (New Earth)
His full name is Stephen, not Steven. -- Tupka 217 14:55, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

Brotherhood of Evil to Brotherhood of Evil (New Earth)
As usual, disambig. Kyletheobald (talk) 02:47, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Wonder Woman's Invisible Jet to Wonder Woman's Invisible Plane
Because the Golden Age version was not a jet. -- Tupka 217 16:38, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Bertram Larvan, Jr. (New Earth) to Bug-Eyed Bandit II
The real name appears based on an edit by Answerguy. Kyletheobald (talk) 21:16, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Linda Holland (New Earth) to Linda Olsen Ridge (New Earth)
Maiden name. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 17:03, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Morgan Edge (Earth-One) to Morris Edelstein (Earth-One)
As revealed in Action Comics #468, his birth name. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 20:07, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Hippolyta Trevor-Hall (Earth-2) to Hippolyta Trevor (Earth-2)
Maiden name. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 23:27, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Stormy Foster (Earth 2) to Jason Foster (Earth 2)

 * It appears that Stormy's first name is Jason. See Earth 2 Vol 1 16. Kyletheobald (talk) 03:57, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Doctor Poison (New Earth) to Doctor Poison II (New Earth)
She's the second Doctor P of New Earth. Maru (who should get a NE page, see Talk:Villainy, Inc.) was her grandmother. -- Tupka 217 13:44, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

"Muscles" McGinnis (New Earth) to Muscles McGinnis (New Earth)
The quotes aren't necessary. Kyletheobald (talk) 23:30, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

Penguin (Batman 1966 TV Series) to Oswald Cobblepot (Batman 1966 TV Series)
As seen in Batman '66 #2. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 21:46, October 10, 2013 (UTC)

Siren (Batman 1966 TV Series) to Lorelei Circe (Batman 1966 TV Series)
Real name. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 02:05, October 11, 2013 (UTC)

Klarn (New Earth) to Klarn Arg (New Earth)
Full name. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 17:09, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

Commissioner Gordon (Batman 1966 TV Series) to James Gordon (Batman 1966 TV Series)
First name confirmed in Batman '66 Chapter Ten. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 23:28, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Rhosyn Forrest (Earth-One) to Rose Forrest (Earth-One)
The name "Rhosyn Forrest" comes from the 2004 Rose and Thorn miniseries. The Earth-One character was always "Rose Forrest". DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 18:19, October 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * Who's Who confirms "Rose" as full name. -- Tupka 217 18:31, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

Prince Orm (The Brave and the Bold) to Orm (The Brave and the Bold)
Prince isn't part of his name. Kyletheobald (talk) 13:55, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

Ultraman (Earth 3) to Kal-Il (Earth 3)
Real name. -- Tupka 217 09:03, October 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * His origin is revealed in Justice League Vol 2 24 (preview here: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=88693 ) where it clearly states his real name is Kal-Il. - Doomlurker (talk) 09:06, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Kal-El (Earth-3) to Ultraman (Earth-3)
No real name. -- Tupka 217 09:03, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Kalel (Earth-23) to Kalel (Earth 23)
As he appeared as part of the New 52 this is the style of naming this wiki uses (e.g. Jason Garrick (Earth 2), Thomas Wayne, Jr. (Earth 3) etc.) - Doomlurker (talk) 11:09, October 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * Same for all Earth 23 characters. We moved Earth-23 to Earth 23 a while back, I just updated all the red links. -- Tupka 217 13:52, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

Terrible Trio to Terrible Trio (New Earth)
Disambig. Kyletheobald (talk) 13:19, October 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * Maybe we should have a special move template (like PEmove) for Disambig moves. As they don't really require discussion and are more of a formality. -- Tupka 217 13:52, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

Branden (Arkhamverse) to Howard Branden (Arkhamverse)
His first name was revealed by his character profile in the game. JimmyOlsen (talk) 17:26, October 26, 2013 (UTC)

Clock King (Batman 1966 TV Series) to Morris Tetch (Batman 1966 TV Series)
Real name revealed in Batman '66 #4. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 03:41, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

Kendra Saunders (Earth 2) to Kendra Munoz-Saunders (Earth 2)
As far as we know this is her real name and not a name through marriage or any other means. - Doomlurker (talk) 11:48, October 29, 2013 (UTC)

President Martinez (Smallville) to Thomas Martinez (Smallville)
His first name was finale revealed JimmyOlsen (talk) 17:40, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

Tess Mercer (Smallville) to Lutessa Luthor (Smallville)
Real name. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 09:47, November 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... tbh I don't know if we should move Tess. Lutess Luthor is her birth name, that's right but I guess her legal name is Tess Mercer after she was "adopted" by the Mercers. JimmyOlsen (talk) 13:20, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

Elinore Lane (Earth-One) to Ella Lane (Earth-One)
The Earth-One version was Ella, not Elinore. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 12:18, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

Rick (Smallville) to Rick DeGroot (Smallville)
Full name revealed JimmyOlsen (talk) 13:20, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

King Faraday (New Earth) to Kingsley Faraday (New Earth)
Full name revealed in New Teen Titans: Games. -- Tupka 217 14:13, November 3, 2013 (UTC)