Board Thread:Characters/@comment-27904334-20160714092217/@comment-33951421-20180415041658

TheMightyHal wrote: The Overmonitor has actually been proven to be far beneath the Presence in power. Once Lucifer gained the Demiurgic Power from Michael and created an entire Multiverse with it, he stated (referring to himself): "A King needs an army. A God needs only a canvas".

Any being that has demiurgic power can enforce their will upon the Overmonitor in much the same way the Writer can. If Lucifer Morningstar saw the Overmonitor as a mere canvas, something he could do whatever he wanted with (which he proved by creating the new Multiverse), then he is obviously more powerful than the Overmonitor. The Presence is more powerful than Lucifer, as the demiurgic power Lucifer possessed is but a portion of the Presence's power. This means the Presence is even stronger than the Overmonitor.

The Overmonitor is also with limits, perhaps more so than the Presence. It is not omniscient - it was originally unaware that the Writer had drawn on it. It is not all-powerful, because it could not erase the Writer's work, nor could it undo the work of the Presence or Lucifer. It could only encapsulate and contain the work to isolate it from the rest of the Overvoid.

When was it ever proven that the Over-Monitor was far below the Presence? Sure, it's not omniscient, but its very nature puts it above him. To the Over-Monitor, all of DC is nothing but a story, and cannot be killed by anything because without it, nothing exists. Characters with Demiurgic powers can inflict some kind of will, but nowhere near the extent of The Writer's, and this is proven that even after Lucifer created his Multiverse, the Overvoid is still all-encompassing. And using the fact that it didn't know about the Writer is irrelevant because The Writer is DC's true supreme being, of course it's more powerful and capable that OM, and besides, The Presence himself is not fully omniscient and has very clear limitations that clearly contradict the definition of omnipotence, for example, He is incapable of killing The Great Evil Beast, with both being equal halves of the same whole. There are certain things he doesn't know, and which occur outside of his plan, and he cannot know the thoughts of comparable beings. If anything, The Presence is an aspect of the Overmonitor, along with The Source, The Word, Wally the God-Boy, etc.