Thread:Tupka217/@comment-29521428-20190106131637/@comment-29521428-20190106143149

ChocolateElemental wrote: Tupka217 wrote: He is, by editorial decree, Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Omnipresent. But our page on him could do with more sources. And storywise there've been moments to call it into question.

The problem with the VS Battles wiki is that to gauge and rank characters from different franchises, they twist them a bit to fit a standardized mold. And they focus on "feats", out of context one time achievements that they just compare to other characters' feats. We don't care about that. In the DC Universe, he's the most powerful force, though he doesn't take a very active role. How he compares to other franchises' supreme Gods is irrelevant.

It's always best to check the primary sources. I've not read many of them (or any, probably), so I don't really know that much of the character.

You do have pretty good points Tupka. I do have other questions however, if The Presence did transfer his three abilities onto Elaine Belloc, how come she died anyway? Do you have any idea why? I mean, I didn't read any of the comics on how she was killed, but isn't the three abilities supposed to make her have no weaknesses and totally impossible to defeat? Because as far as I'm concerned, she died while she had those three main powers. What happened? Besides, I find transferring True Omnipotence alongside Omniscience and Omnipresence impossible to do since Omnipotence means not only having no weaknesses and having unspeakable authority over anything, but to also have an infinite array of powers, meaning it is highly likely to be impossible to affect True Omnipotence. But the most obvious question is, isn't The Presence obviously beyond life and death? In terms of explanation, [Life and Death Transcendence] is a similar power to [Amortality], except this is the most perfect version. The user is not only truly immortal, but he/she has total immunity to all powers alike. Is it possible that The Presence has this power too? Or does this coincide with the same question regarding the sources?