Thread:Lordofninjas1/@comment-1639863-20171011184718/@comment-4276072-20171011185520

Haroldrocks wrote: The phrase "out of universe" means that the content is written from the standpoint of a real world viewer. On this site, we write everything in the context as if we're historians in the universe we're writing a page for.

Specifically, the thing that was out of universe on the page for the Thinker was the sentence about "Flash, Season 4 Episode 1" or whatever. It's okay to source, but you do that behind the scenes with citations -. However, I undid everything because it didn't really add anything to the page. We don't know enough about the Thinker yet to clutter the page with minor things that don't really say anything about him. Saying "he told the Mechanic they're moving forward with their plan" is such a minor detail for a season-wide villain, it's okay to wait until we have something of substance.

And, affiliations are usually reserved for teams, not individuals. ok, well rather than just delete it in its entirety, how about just alter it to be "in universe". and I don't see how saying "he first appeared, or when he first appeared" isn't stating like a historian as historians use similar terminology all the time, so maybe just take out the reference to when he appeared and it would be in universe? also how does information about him not really provide anything to the page? it provides information about him to the page. we don't know enough about him yet, true, but that doesn't mean we cant come back and add more things to it later (you guys do that all the time with other pages, so its a site wide thing). also, if the information isn't on there people will think the wiki isn't a reliable source of information like it tries to be, and Encyclopedias, also what this site tries to be, are updated and altered at least semi-regularly, so it is possible to do the same here.