Thread:Midoki24/@comment-220364-20120916033314/@comment-220364-20120917224137

There are a few things I'm thinking about...

First is the PoS situation. The proposed template I've got can be split in two. One would be a straight powers list - no gods or god-like characters mentioned by name. The other would be a template for the notes section that amounts to "This character is empowered by 1 through 6" that would be consistent across the articles and dropped for cases like Mary of New Earth who ran through a baker's dozen and the original Mary who used a different set from Billy and Freddy.

Next is the intent of these types of templates. To the best of my understanding - and this is a change from where the current Martian and Kryptonian powers ones are at the moment - they are minimalist place holders. That's where the "substitution" suggestion in the proposed usage sections comes from. Once specific uses need to be pointed out, or an exception needs to be made, or refs are desired, the boilerplate needs to become an editable section of the article. This is one of the reasons I just shuffled the order on Superboy-Prime instead of trying to just put in "Kryptonian Powers" - there was a lot upward improvement that would have been lost.

And that brings me to the last thing... and it's a troubling one. The more I look at these, the more I see that they are being abused or just create bad situations.

The Damonite and Martian ones are straight forward. As near as I can tell, almost all members of the races have the relevant powers. (Malefic being an obvious exception since he lacks Martian telepathy). It's very hard to see a case where the would be miss-applied.

The Atlantean and Vampire ones almost fits in that as well. Though the Atlantean seems limited to Earth-One/New Earth-like situations as well as those character from Atlantis after it sank and Vampire to the "traditional" vampires.

The others though...
 * Kryptonian is based on current cannon. Even excluding it from characters only shown in a Kryptonian environment, I'm not sure if it is appropriate to have the same descriptions/explanations for how the powers work on pre-Crisis characters. Or even some of the alternate reality versions of the characters. I'm going to have another look at that and see if the text can be stripped down a bit more.
 * PoS seems to want to cover everything and I'm not sure if what the modern Captain Marvel has and can do is really the same as the Golden Age version. This is especially true with Energy Projection (when was the transformative lightning first used as a weapon?) and magic.
 * Firestorm Matrix seems to be aimed at just Firestorm, but it looks like it may get added to the post-Flashpoint Nuclear Men aside from Ronnie and Jason.
 * Speed Force Conduit is a real mixed bag. There are some things there that I have to ask "When was that shown?" or "All of the Flash family can do that or only Wally and/or Barry?" This is why Time travel isn't on my proposed update. It also suffers from the same problem/issue with Kryptonian Powers - it only really applies to a handful of characters but it has been placed on to articles where the character has never been included in that group. (See The Flash from Super Friends talk page.)