User blog comment:BeholdtheVision/Hey Guys, I'd Really Apprecitae Help/@comment-1038387-20140520220126

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First of all, these kind of battles are pointless. Unless they fought in JLA/Avengers and there's a "canon" outcome, it's moot. Different universes, different power origins. Pym particles versus a white dwarf star lens.

Also, NEVER go into a YouTube debate. Seriously. Everyone thinks they're smartest, and even the slightest backtrack is defeat, and the slightest misunderstanding is evidence the other is an idiot.

Some points though:
 * Atom and the Ray are different people... but Atom's name is Ray. Ray Palmer. Hence the confusion. Also, on Earth-6, Ray Palmer was the Ray, but that's irrelevant.
 * When Atom shrinks, he retains his mass and strength. It's not that formidable at full size, but at six inches, it's strong.
 * He can sort of glide on air currents. The Atoms can become lighter than air.
 * Atom's favorite form of transportation is following an electric current in a phone line. That's pretty much instant travel, but the only application of super-speed. So he's not "faster than Flash" in every sense of the word. Only if he can race on a phone line.
 * I'm not sure about sat phones.
 * Atom is smart. Top 5 in the DC Universe. Ray's a professor at Ivy University.
 * I'm not sure how Hank gets his Pym Particles fired up, but Ray is pretty useless if his belt is broken.

But again, "who's stronger" battles for different company characters are pointless.