Thread:Tupka217/@comment-26127492-20190627035407/@comment-26127492-20190711030546

I stand corrected. I thought that DC hired Miller to write the Post-Crisis origin for Batman first (alongside Byrne's Superman and Perez's Wonder Woman), and Miller just decided to use it as his Dark Knight origin. Grant Morrison did something similar by making All Star Superman a prequel to DC One Million, even though All Star has nothing to do with New Earth continuity.

Still, the point is the same. Year One was connected to New Earth (and ostensibly, Prime Earth), as well as DKR and its later sequels/prequels that exist for some reason.

Joker really can't be connected to the DCU because, while personality changes and redesigns can be ignored, they went as far as to change Penguin's name to Abner and completely change the characters' relationships and occupations. Harley now being a stripper, Riddler being a crippled hacker with a literal question mark cane, Killer Croc being an urban gang banger with a close loyalty to the Joker, ETC.

Much like Batman: Damned, it's basically Azzarello doing Azzarello. Heck, even his 100% canon run on Hellblazer has been criticised by some fans for going against established characterisations (although nothing as drastic as Joker and Damned).

As for what to name the pages, my vote is that we stick with (Damned). It's less work for admins, Batman: Noel isn't confirmed to be connected, there's an upcoming movie also called Joker, and Joker (Damned) reads a lot better than Joker (Joker) or Joker (Azzarelloverse). It also opens more options later on (such as Arthur Fleck (Joker), Arthur Fleck (Jokerverse), or Arthur Fleck (Joker Movie)).