Yeah, I don't see the obsession with ppl tryna show off Bruce has a bigger dick by beating all sorts of heroes because prep time and plot armor lol

OK that's fine man, I'll respect your opinion, for the sake of not tiring myself out defending Batman yet again. I'm quite sick of defending and arguing him at this point. The toxicity of some other people over something as simple as an opinion makes me just so fruuuuuustrated... I might just head over to the Marvel Wiki and see who disagrees with my Marvel opinions there XD

Also, this discussion is about Batman in his prime.

I just hate everything about this post. You have people going hurr durr Batmans just a useless human who can't do anything and then people going he can beat the entire JL.

What side am I supposed to be on lol

ABF You've got a point. I'm also honestly on neither side, though I lean towards the side that says Batman is more powerful than he seems, or as powerful as he is cut out to be, but only slightly on that side more :)

Sure Batman could probably stand a chance against big time heroes and actually win, we've seen it before, but there are always weaknesses within Batman. I think the character that unlocks those weaknesses is definitely Joker, some good reads that share good examples would be Three Jokers, Joker War, and Death Of The Family. And Endgame, but everyone's already heard me boast about Endgame so many times already that I'll give you a break this time and just mention those three OK? :D

He has studied Batman and Bruce's weaknesses and used them against him in battle. Case in point, Joker is a really interesting character.

I think you can create your own side, and I'll definitely join it. Something in the middle, I'd say... Like, Batman isn't a literal GOD, but it's not like he'd lose to The Penguin in a fist fight or anything. The advantage Bats has over most characters, as I've mentioned before, is his tactical thinking, his (almost) blocking of emotions (or just restraining them best), and the fact he is prepared for almost any situation, which would lean back to my point of him being tactical, but I'd put this one under his usage of gadgets.

Besides, (poor reference incoming, I'm sorry) we already saw what happens when Batman doesn't hold back, in the form of BWL himself. Laughs is a nightmare version of Batman, sure, but Bruce, recognizing him, it's safe to assume he knows what'll happen if he goes down that dark path exactly and that was pretty much copy-and-paste-d into BWL's origin. I don't know though, I'm just theorizing.

This post, and more other recent ones, have really been targeting Batman for whatever reason, and it just stirs up toxic arguments between users, and believe me I know. I think it's time we take a little breaky from Batsy and move on to another character to complain about. Elaexy's probably going to hate me for saying this, but it looks as if Wally West isn't as 'good' of a character as he used to be since he got his hands on the Mobius Chair. Besides he IS almost a literal GOD now so we can feel free to talk Plot Armor and whatnot there if you'd like. Anyone else on board? I say we give targeting Batman a break. [SPOILER: FRIENDLY REMINDER ] Alfred's still dead Bruce can't take this right now :(

Hey I understand. I'd rather have Wally normal again and I would love two Flash On-Goings one starring Barry and a different one starring Wally. It would be so great. Sadly the possibility is small.

You forgot to say "Friendly Reminder". 😭 my guyyy, that huuurrrrtttt.

What hurt?

"Alfred's still dead he can't take this right now." That hurt me... Sisu's thingie, sorry if I confused you...

Yeah the idea of bane killing him doesn't sit right with me.