Yeah I just thought of mentioning TTG! for the sake of this conversation guys. It seemed important to bring up, I'm not expecting anyone to trust it
If TTG is to be taken in account then in a lot of episodes when the show shows that the titans have grown old, we see Starfire as a weak old woman only, just as weak as Robin and other titans so Tamaraneans age just like human beings.
TTG! itself doesn’t take itself too seriously in terms of canon. As I already said, it contradicts itself constantly. Many cartoons are similar. We generally aren’t supposed to try to form a direct timeline and create a consistent encyclopedia for its “facts.”
Yeah but as Etrigan said every universe is canon in it's own reality (I agree btw)
As canon as it can be. There’s a limit when there are shows that contradict themselves and do wacky things where characters end up dismembered or whatever and then they’re back to normal the next episode. All universes can have their own canon, but only as far as the individual universe itself can have canon. Some events will stick around in continuity, and others won’t. The things that contradict can’t have a single declared “canon.” As Sylv said, Starfire has also been shown as being as old physically as the others after the same amount of time. That contradicts the offhandedly spoken comment about how long a year on her planet takes. Therefore, neither can be declared fully canon.
Edit: Show’s like Family Guy are similar. A scene will have a main character be killed for a gag, and then the character show up later in that episode just fine. Yet many parts of that show carry over in continuity. It’s a unique type of universe wherein you have to recognize that not every little tidbit will necessarily be fully recognized as canon. TTG! follows the same rule.
TTG! Is just a dumb, out-of-place show though with no canon. Again, I brought it up because it is actually really accurate when it comes to facts on the DC Universe though, and I assumed that one fact would also be correct.
The show gets some things somewhat accurate. It was worth bringing up. I’m not arguing that.
“Starfire has also been shown as being as old physically as the others after the same amount of time. That contradicts the offhandedly spoken comment about how long a year on her planet takes.”
Except that it doesn’t. The “Salty Codgers” plot involves Raven magically aging the Titans into their elderly forms. It doesn’t imply their lifespans are the same as Starfire could take longer to reach that equivalent stage via a natural timeline but she was instantaneously transformed mystically.
However, I’m sure N8 knows me well enough to know that I have no stake in this debate whatsoever and do agree with all he said, besides the aforementioned. I merely find the dismissal of source material, regardless how trivial the source may seem, for the convenience of conjecture, or even lack there of in this case, within the confines of the proverbial “mainstream” continuity of which there are several in comics anyway.
Yes, it would make sense if Tamaraneans had different lifespans to humans. As I have queried rhetorically in the past, “How do we know Kory is even a teen Titan?” The point is we don’t know, because no writer was smart or stupid enough to open that can of pseudoscientific space worms.
Ah yes I forgot about Salty Codgers
That was a weeeeeiiiiiiirrrrrd episode.
Then again, All Teen Titans Go episodes are weird. Maybe the fact of Starfire's birthdate and Tamaran's days in a year is actually correct
I could swear her age was given as bend the same as Dick and co. and that she expresses time similarly to Terrans, but I’d have to go through many comic issues to find the places where age and time are alluded to. I may.
What do you think?