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I like the Rogues, but thinking that any character only belongs in a team immediately limits their potential. It’s that line of thinking that’s forced Beast Boy to not be able to find a place outside of the Titans. Bigwigs think Gar only belongs with the team to the point that he’s the NTT founder with the fewest solo stories. Gar should have been able to hold his own as a solo/adult hero, but editorial won’t let him because too many readers mirror the thinking that he’s a Titans member above all else and can only exist in that limited capacity. He could be so much more, like other Titans before and after him. I love teams, and I love team stories. But the “X character can only work as part of Y team” idea is dangerous.
Barry and Wally are ridiculously OP these days that they have to constantly make them lose to people who they should beat easily. Bit like Martian Manhunter
^^^Then you should read some Rogues storylines.
Honestly, of all the classic members that are generally part of the Rogues, I think Mirror Master is the one that bears the biggest threat. His mirror dimension and the alternate mirror worlds at his disposal are super dangerous. Wally was lucky to survive a couple times.
Luckily, the point was about the Rogues members as solo leads for their own titles, so their abilities in relation to the Flash don’t necessarily have to play into this part of the thread.
I never said the Rogues won't work solo. I just think (and that may be an unpopular opinion) that they work better as a team. It's always fun to see how they interact with eachother and how they make plans and combine all their powers together.
I agree the mirror gun is extremely underrated in terms of power. But in my opinion as solo dudes Cold is the greatest threat. He always has some plan and can use what he has for the best. His intelligence is really underrated.
Mirror Master yes. Cold? Powerful gun or not what's stopping wally from disarming him before he could pull the trigger.
Cold isn't stupid. He always has an intelligent plan. Guys just read some Rogues storylines. Even one would be enough. Read Rogues Rebellion or something.
To be fair, Cold specifically modified his gun years and years ago to emit a cold field that can even slow down speedsters enough for him to take action. It’s naturally a temporary countermeasure that only goes so far, and I still imagine Cold would lose to Flash in most cases one-on-one, but I wanted to give him credit for being able to do more than just freeze objects he hits with the gun.
^Couldn't agree more. The fact that the Rogues, while being normal humans, are able to come up against the flash shows how extremely dangerous they are. Imagine them fighting someone like Batman. I would say they would have a real chance against him, if the Batgod effect wouldn't exist.
Of course, let’s not get too off-topic here. This thread isn’t about the merits of the Rogues. It’s about characters having their own titles.