^^ I agree with it in most situations in real life unless the person being hated is a terrible human being like a racist or sex offender etc.

But with fictional characters it’s a normal reaction to do especially if you dislike a character so much

Guess I’ve never met a person I truly hate, so I wouldn’t know true hatred. But your right, hate might be an overreaction, I just can’t stand the character. This is me before Damian arrives in a comic:

Me after Damian arrives:

Also good for you, @EchoEmpire , literally no one asked.

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Ladderman, literally no one who uses the word "Mary Sue" in an argument wins said argument because it's a ridiculous term that is rarely used correctly. And Damian isn't a Mary Sue in any way, shape, or form, so even though no one asked Echo to tell you your Mary Sue term is unnecessary, it was a true point to make.

You’re right, @Sisu138 . They’re called Gary Stu’s when they’re male. Also I’m not arguing with anyone, I was stating my opinion about why I dislike the character and @EchoEmpire had to be unnecessarily rude about me using the word “Mary Sue”. I also explained how Damian in the animated stuff (not the character in general media just the animated stuff) was a Gary Stu, and how he unrealistically beats Deathstroke and Nightwing, making other characters look bad so the character himself looks better. Which as I read here, is an exactly what a Gary Stu is, “a wish fulfillment character made by the author”. Having some young kid who probably weighs 70 pounds beat a master assassin like Deathstroke in my opinion is considered wish fulfillment and illogically stupid, even from a writing point, and yes, he’s often considered perfect. His flaws are barely written on in the animated stuff and he makes it 10x worse with his narcissistic attitude.

I was basing the Gary Stu argument off of this and it actually seems pretty accurate to what I was saying

Not the point I was proving, buddy. Echo wasn't being unnecessarily rude about your poor usage of an overused term. Damian isn't a "Gary Stu" or "Mary Sue". Don't know what you expect when he's raised by Ninjas and is Batman's son. His whole gig and attitude stems from that origin. Is he bratty sometimes, yes, but he's saved more people than any of us have in our lifetime, so no matter how much of a little shit he is he's still one of the good guys.

I don’t know what you expect, but Deathstroke has been alive longer and was literally trained by the same assassin league. So yes, Damian is still considered a Gary Stu in my opinion.

In my opinion your "Gary Stu" belief is silly, wrong, and is taking you nowhere. Damian being a "Gary Stu" as you so strongly persuade has nothing to do with him being obnoxious either. It really just looks like an excuse for you to nitpick how perfect he seems to be.

So what I'm trying to say about your Gary Stu "Point" is...

Good for you, but no one asked.

Also, that “raised by assassin’s” thing, just sounds like an excuse for him to be a Gary Stu, wtf? He automatically just wins because “he was raised by assassin’s, and you have to expect him to win because of that”. Sounds like a Gary Stu