@Spaztacular I get that but now of days it feels like you have to at least one charcter that is gay, bisexual, or other, and while that is good in some case. In others it feels completely out of left field that this charcter is LGBT+ , and others feel forced or just done to be inclusive.

"I think unfortunately now of days it's go woke or be canceled by everyone on social media... there is no in-between."

@Atlasrapture Cancel culture is a problem that has a number of apologists, but its not as systemic as I used to believe. As someone who would have agreed with the above quote, my advice is to find rational people who you disagree with and focus on understanding their beliefs. That's the only way we can move forward as a society

"I never understood the uproar of negativity. If you don't like don't buy the comic and move on with your life."

I don't think anyone CAN dislike a book they haven't read. They may dislike the idea of the book or think they dislike a book, but they can't truly dislike something they do not know

^ This. Even if I find sth stupid or ridiculous at first, I want to wait untill it releases and judge it thoroughly then.

Yeah! And sometimes we'll be surprised

I thought I was going to hate the musical Wicked, but I ended up loving it! (And that was on a horrible day too)

Tupka217

"As mentioned, it makes certain people upset. They start screaming about a doom that's not actually backed up by any evidence, and see even the slightest correlation as causation. Don't worry. They come crawling out of the woodwork and when the hubbub dies down they'll crawl back, and DC will still exist."

Heheheheheheheheheheheehhehe

Ignoring the fact the people from said hubbub where able to raise over a million dollars from publishing their own comics

And why would they go back to mainstream when they have manga and indie comics to fill the void. Yeah they will probably by old comics, but if they want something new, they can just go elsewhere

And here's something, straight from forbes

@Atlasrapture

Nonbinary here - the LGBTQ+ Community is extremely diverse and everywhere. I’m nothing like anything we’ve seen before. There are a handful of characters that we almost never see that are very stereotypical, we haven’t even begun to reach diversity in DC yet. This especially extends to other minorities.

Please tell me what is so bad about having logical rosters? What is this supposed to be 1970?

If you call me out Baron, can you try to address the points I actually made?

Wow, this is still going on? I've never cared for "representation" but that's just me. I'm Hispanic and there's not a Hispanic character that makes it into my top ten in any fandom. My 5 favorites in DC are 4 aliens and 1 Egyptian. It's kind of funny to see that in a world with galactic threats, thousands of alien species and a trillion problems they are focused on stuff like this.

NOW, before you all jump me let's be honest, many people mad at this has never bought a Jon Kent comic, I never have so I don't care what they do with the character. HOWEVER, I do understand why people feel like they are doing it too much, for example, most major JL member now have a gay/bi sidekick, Batman, Aquaman, WW, Superman, etc., I find it funny when people say that this "representation" makes it realistic when it's the opposite. For example, realistic would be in a team of 5 having perhaps one gay/bi member, but 3 out 5? 4 out 5? or 5 out of 5? what are the chances? (unless they formed in a gay club) Where I work, we have about 200 employees in my division, we are divided by jobs and shifts, out of those, we have 1 lesbian, 4 bi women (that I know of) and 0 gay/bi men, we had one but he transferred. See where I'm getting at? Of course, this is my personal experience and everybody's life experience is different. There's also the fact that the younger generation have different "priorities" so stuff like these are much more common than when I grew up. My job however involves getting rough sometimes and can be stressful, both mentally and physically, good money but it's not for everybody. I'm sure if you look at some office job the numbers/percentage would change drastically.

In short, I understand both sides and honestly don't care and you shouldn't either unless you are a Jon Kent fan which I doubt.

Statistics are manipulatable nonsense anyway, but while strictly gay people will most likely be open about their sexuality there are many bisexual people who choose to hide that aspect of themselves for convenience or to escape unwarranted social ignorance. There are unfortunately stigmas and misconceptions of bisexuality even within the LGBTQ+ community which is sad.

It’s much easier for some bisexual people to just identify as straight and only express it with trusted friends or anonymously. There are always more than you expect. People you wouldn’t expect.