And the idea that “if Batman was real he’d be and asshole murderous vigilante because the idea of him being a kindhearted hero that doesn’t kill is unrealistic” says a lot about the kinds of people who think this. It’s a needlessly edgy and pessimistic view of “the real world”

If anything, I think Batman not killing people makes him a more compelling character. It adds conflict. It complexity. I mean, if he had no problem with killing, wouldn’t he just kill the Joker? Then you’d lose out on both the iconic rivalry between the two, and the conflict that comes from people as horrible as Joker testing the limits of his rule. If there’s no “no-kill rule”, you can’t have the moral dilemma of whether Batman should break his all-important rule and kill the Joker for the greater good.

There’s a reason Batman has a big iconic rogues gallery and The Punisher doesn’t.

I was going to delete this thread just because the Op just linked videos to explain a point. And even worse Luthor is spelled as Luther in one of them . Please refrain from doing this next time.

Never trust an opinion that isn’t even original. If you have to link someone else’s opinion to make your argument you shouldn’t be arguing 🫠

The thing is I already thought that Batman v Superman is Underrated. And did you not see the Wall of text I put in the comments @Sisu138

Then why didn’t you lead with that

I missed this so you're spared the usual.

Masterpiece... bwahahaha.

"Batman lost one big characteristic those days, that he's supposed to be Scary."

That's not actually true. Matt Reeves explored Batman's scary nature in his movie. In the opening sequences, you can see criminals are scared of the shadows because they think Batman is there watching them. The whole movie shows a gritty depiction of Batman without making him overly edgy, and by the end of it, he learns that his methods shouldn't rely only on scaring criminals. He must also inspire hope in the innocent residents of a rotten city, because that's what Batman's supposed to represent. And that's something Snyder didn't achieve. At all.