Jean-Paul Valley.

1. Kara was never set up to be replaced by Matrix. They killed her off to complete her arc and then needed another Supergirl in the new continuity in which Kryptonians were outlawed by the new head of the book. Unlike Wally, that was never set up. And even with Wally, you can't just say contrived exceptions exist when its just plain evidence to the contrary to legacies not being allowed long-term.

2. Wonder Woman was more of yet another example that these shakeups do happen. Not always that temporarily either. Like Diana being powerless and being a spy.

3. Damian is riding on coattails for being in the status all the Robins have been at. So that's irrelevant thinking when all of them have been there. And nobody said it had to be Dick, but he is an example of an actual legacy and not like Jean where it was more of a Reign of the Supermen case.

4. No, it isn't. Jon existed before Jace and Yara and were setup beyond Future State and whatever the 5G BS or whatever people peddle new arcs of continuity into. Not to mention even when taking that pathway seriously mainly seen through very slim leaks, Jon wasn't even the freaking plan. Mon-El was. Jon existed before this supposed era.

Ok...

1. I never said that Kara was killed off just to be replaced by Matrix. I don't think that was even part of the plan. Both Kara and Barry were killed off to show that DC was serious about the Crisis on Infinite Earths having long-term consequences to the greater continuity.

2. Again, I'm aware that shakeups do happen. They're not as permanent as some people think they are because the more DC pushes for a change regarding one of their biggest characters, the more likely they are to face backlash.

3. The big problem with Damian is that now that he exists, integrating the other Robins into stories is difficult because there are now 4 of them (6 if you count Duke Thomas and Stephanie Brown). Back in when Damian was introduced, Tim was worried that Damian was gonna replace him, and now, that's exactly what seems to be happening.

4. Yes, it is valid. Nobody was asking for Jon to suddenly be an adult and be the new Superman because Dan DiDio thought this would be a good idea.

You might not like it or even agree with it, but that's what DC was planning.

And again, that is a major change for DC that you can't just say is temporary or just dismiss as the exception when it lasted 20 years out of some major characters.

That's the BS they say. It's not what ends up resulting out of their long-term history of switch ups. They're just as many permeant changes as there are stagnant ones.

Except that was an arc that reached it's inevitable conclusion with Tim separating to his own arcs and life. Even going to college separate from the rest of the Bat adventures. That's a progression of the arc. Not proving the points within it right. If anything, it proved it wrong. And Stephanie's been Batgirl far longer than she's been Robin by now which Batgirls proved. While Duke isn't a Robin. He's The Signal first.

Dan's plan was for it to happen immediately. The dislike of him eventually being Superman was a minority. Especially when Clark having a book of a full family life with Jon and Lois was incredibly well received. We just didn't want things speedran through.

With all the changes happening left and right on DC, I don't see why people complaining about DC having a steel-clad status quo when, in reality, things change fairly often.

Also, I don't even think the dislike for Jon being Superman was a minority, at least if you use book sales as a reference. It wasn't even a knee-jerk reaction. People like Jon. They just don't want him to replace Clark on a permanent basis. Alternate universes and parallel timelines? Sure. Main DC Universe? Nope.

Because some do exist that fans have loved and still do. Hell, that's why stuff like this post exists.

People hated him getting a speed run in being aged up. They didn't mind the idea of Jon being Superman somewhere down the line. They ironically were more pissed of him replacing Conner due to being closer to his age than Clark's.

Surprised nobody has mentioned Thomas Wayne. Flashpoint Batman and Joker are awesome.

That's because prime Thomas is dead.

What does that have to do with anything?

Like, how is he supposed to be a successor if he's dead? And Bats resorting to murder would make him just as bad as J.