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For the record, I am not new to FANDOM, but this is the first (and most likely only) post I have made on the DC wiki. Recently I have been trying to get my head around all the different timelines and eras in the DC universes since the beginning in 1934, but the best explanation I could really find is this Reddit post.
However, this doesn't really delve into any of the stuff to do with the films or shows, and I would like to know more about the timelines and continuities.
According to storyboard artist Jay Oliva in August 2023, in addition to Snyder's intended "Darkseid quadrilogy" that would have ended up with what he described as "a Justice League Unlimited version" of the "Snyder-Verse", Warner Bros. planned to make a Flash trilogy, which was at different points of development, with directors like Seth Grahame-Smith and Rick Famuyiwa being considered, that would have culminated in a "Flashpoint" film adaptation similar to Oliva's D.C. Universe Animated Original Movies (D.C.U.A.O.M.) film Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox (2013), which would have revealed that Professor Zoom had been behind the D.C.E.U.'s events, having been in the background during most of the trilogy while having some influence over the Justice League films' events, provoking the Flash into changing the universe in a way that resulted in everyone becoming enemies with those who used to be their allies, forcing the Flash to reboot the franchise in a way that could have introduced a new cast, due to the studio folks feeling that the starring actors would wish to move on from their roles after a decade.
Well, with The Flash having been inspired by the "Flashpoint" story-arc and, albeit in a totally different fashion, totally revamping the D.C.E.U. into the D.C.U., coupled with how they mucked the franchise up and gave Snyder the finger, unfortunately, it looks like Warner got their wish, just much sooner than initially anticipated.
Old news aside, here's my source: https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/zack-snyder-original-flash-movie-plan-jay-oliva
Shocking, isn't it?
I don't know if I'll ever return to this database, and I honestly highly doubt it. But after everything that A.O.L. Time Warner Bros. Discovery Entertainment Media has done to muck things up for the D.C.E.U. and their lack of a desire to fix the messes that they started, coupled with the filmmakers' and actors' lack of fighting to get its things back on the right track again at the time, I've become highly skeptical of the future of interconnected D.C. films and shows. If they repeat this same mistake again with the upcoming D.C.U., then they should just stop altogether. It's as simple as that. They have no one to blame for this mess but themselves! Had they let the filmmakers take their own chances and execute their visions for the stories as they all saw fit, then the D.C. Extended Universe could've been a more successful entity despite its questionable flaws. Instead, the folks at the studios simply gave them all their middle fingers crossed into an X in favor of simply looking after their own bonuses and careers. That unfortunate reality is simply unacceptable and so motivated by greed and paranoia. While I'm willing to give James Gunn and Peter Safran's D.C. Universe the benefit of the doubt, if they do repeat this same mistake again, then I'll have turned my back on D.C. altogether. Given Gunn's prior experience with the M.C.U. in directing the Guardians of the Galaxy films and special and serving as producer in some of its other entries, however, I hope that they'll have learned a big lesson since hiring him if they still haven't yet. And if not, then D.C. will have crashed and burned. So block me if you have to, but that's that. Sorry to bid you all farewell on such a bitter note, but happy effing upcoming Valentine's Day, people.
https://www.imdb.com/news/ni63864813/
https://screenrant.com/dcu-darkseid-ray-porter-return-james-gunn-message/
This is obviously old news, but since the D.C.U. is supposed to carry over some semblance of continuity and character elements from the D.C.E.U., I think it'd be interesting to see him return. Since the new franchise will take a different direction from the one that the D.C.E.U. took, though, something tells me that his journey for Anti-Life and battle against the Justice League will be restarted entirely from scratch. I for one am not surprised, but assuming that James Gunn and Peter Safran give their approval, it'll be good to know that the new universe will bring the League and their greatest arch-nemesis back.
General:
Because we want to keep Superman as the most powerful being on Earth, Martian Manhunter can only assume humanoid shapes and read minds at close range. The rest of his powers is ignored.
The Joker is an overarching antagonist of the series, sort of like Neferpitou from Hunter x Hunter. He has regenerative abilities that prevent anyone from killing him, and only Omega Effect can permanently kill him. His backstory is ignored entirely and he uses his comicbook counterpart's trademark weapons, like Smilex (called "Gas of Eternal Happiness"), Jokermobile or Joybuzzer.
Man of Steel:
Remove Superman demolishing some dude's truck. That's like out of character.
Superman actively tries to get Zod out of the city. There is also some montage of him trying to save people (like in Death of Superman animated movie).
Instead of shooting down some drone at the end of the film, Gen Swanwick renders his female companion unconscious with his telepathy and reveals himself to be Martian Manhunter. He gives a hint about Darkseid's conquest happening in the future and is like "There's more people like you" and proposes to start a team of superheroes.
Suicide Squad/The Suicide Squad:
Have Killer Croc actually be giant crocodylomorph monster that he is in Arkham games. He is also the one to kill the final baddie.
The Joker is completely cut from this movie.
The Dawn of Justice:
In the opening scene, The Joker is behind terrorist trade of Kryptonite. After Superman arrives and harmlessly dispatches everyone, The Joker tries to shoot Superman with Kryptonite bullet but fires a flag gun. He is then arrested.
Superman DOESN'T go around murdering people. He has PTSD caused by Zod's murder and doesn't want to harm people, which is he disarms that terrorist without killing him.
Lex Luthor is a bald, cold genius he is in the comics, but his backstory is elaborated upon. He was raised by adopted broke family after his father had abandoned, only for him to come back and take his revenge.
Lois Lane, Clark Kent and Lex Luthor are in love triangle.
Instead of blowing up some guy on a wheelchair, the court scene is elaborated upon. Superman is called out on his mistakes, from which he tries to make excuses from, until he is eventually defended by someone else.
After faking a heart attack in Arkham Asylum, Joker releases an acid gas inside his liver to kill everyone and escape. The Joker then creates a Bizarro from Zod's corpse (initially looking exactly like Superman) to make Supes look bad.
Batman summons Superman through batsignal, no Lois Lane is kidnapped.
When he is about to perform a killing blow on Superman with spear, Batman briefly has a vision of Jason's mangled face and is contracted by Alfred to stop, but he shuts him off.
However, this gives Superman enough time to recover and beat Batman to submission. Batman accepts his fate, but Superman gives a speech that convinces Batman to help him.
It turns out that The Joker's actual plan was to detonate nuclear bomb in Metropolis, sacrificing himself in the process. However, Batman is able to beat all goons. The Joker then fights Batman one-on-one, getting beaten as Batman disarms the bomb.
Meanwhile, Superman confronts Lex Luthor. Bizarro is released and after being nuked, Bizarro mutates into his comicbook-lookalike form.
Martian Manhunter is the one to warn the others about incoming war. And knightmare is removed.
That's all for now.
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James Gunn confirmed that everything released before Creature Commandos premieres on Max next year and Superman: Legacy comes out on theaters is not canonical to his and Peter Safran's D.C.U. As such, Blue Beetle is not part of the new franchise's timeline, even though Xolo Maridueña will keep playing him in it. They're just part of the D.C.E.U. This is my source: https://deadline.com/2023/09/james-gunn-viola-davis-john-cena-xolo-mariduena-wga-strike-1235558076/
As such, the "faint memory" of the events of both The Suicide Squad and season 1 of Peacemaker never happened in the D.C.U. either. Just wanted to clarify that for all of you.
Otherwise, I hope you all have a merry Christmas! ✝️❤️☦️❣️🙏😍🕍💒⛪🎄
June 14th, 2013 to December 22nd, 2023. R.I.P.
(animated or not) I have not seen any of them and I want to see what you guys recommend.
From stranger.
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I don't understand why The Suicide Squad and season 1 of Peacemaker aren't to be included in the article for the D.C. Extended Universe. They're set in said franchise. James Gunn may have said that "a rough memory" of their events took place in the upcoming D.C. Universe, but they were originally part of the D.C.E.U. before The Flash created the D.C.U. Besides: they aren't officially part of the incoming franchise's first "chapter". So why won't they be included? Explain that to me.
For those that have seen the film here what did you think about it? Did you like/dislike certain parts? Did you want more of anything in particular? Feel free to discuss below.
Do try to mark any spoilers that you may need to expand upon.
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