I need some recommendations, but I've already read All Star Superman, Grant Morrison's Action Comics, Superman: Brainiac, The Death/return of Superman, Secret Origin, Birthright, For all Seasons, The Man of Steel, Superman Revenge Squad 2017, and a bunch of elseworlds stories. So, I really want main continuity stories that are absolutely worth reading through all/most of...
Also, I'm planning on reading Greg Pak's Action Comics soon too, so yeah.
Obviously nothing is final and things change all the time, but as fans it’s fun to speculate.
We already know that,
The Superman movie will be released in July
Batman is set to be recast in The Brave and the Bold movie
John Stewart have been confirmed for the Lanterns series
Which gives us a solid foundation.
From the Year One “Justice League,” we’re missing Wonder Woman, Black Canary, Flash, Aquaman, and Martian Manhunter.
Martian Manhunter seems like a pretty easy addition since he was never fully used in the DCEU so there won't be much baggage using him.
But with Wonder Woman, Flash, and Aquaman, it's murkier. There’s talk of putting them “on hold,” however not having them may affect the team dynamic.
Wonder Woman's absence for instance, would leave a pretty big gap in terms of female leadership and power. Maybe Black Canary could fill that role for now until Trinity joins the team.
The biggest void for me, though, would be Flash. I grew up reading plenty of Justice League comics and watched TAS and JLU, and Flash was always crucial not just as comic relief, but also as the heart and emotional release valve of the team. If DC Studios, want to go with comic relief? Maybe bring in someone like Booster Gold, Plastic Man, or even keep using Blue Beetle? it’ll open up room for new dynamics while staying true to some fan-favorite lineups.
Mine are hawk and dove and fire
If you disagree or want to discuss it, any questions or whatever. Comment please
On Prime Earth there's about a 10-15 year timeline since Superman's debut. I'll just say 13 as mentioned in Justice Society of America (2022) and it works well enough imo
Superman: 35
Batman: 35
Wonder Woman: 160+? (physically mid 20s)
Barry Allen: 35
Hal Jordan: 35
Aquaman: 31-35
Martian Manhunter: around 1,000
Green Arrow: mid 30s
Black Canary: around 30
Hawkgirl: 22
Stargirl: 18
Starfire: 25
Raven: 24
Beast Boy: 22
Cyborg: 24-25
Donna Troy: 25
Arsenal: 25-26
Wally West: 24-26
Nightwing: 25
Lois Lane: 34-35
Perry White: 50s
Jimmy Olsen: late 20s?
Hawkman (current body): late 20s??
John Henry Irons: mid 30s
Alfred Pennyworth: was 57
Lex Luthor: 38
Red Hood: 21
Superboy: 18
Stephanie Brown: 18
Jon Kent: 18
Tim Drake: 18
Impulse: 17-18
Supergirl: 21-22
Cassandra Cain: 21
Batwoman: around 30
Joker: mid 30s?
Harley Quinn: 27
Jay Garrick: 107 (physically 45)
Jesse Quick: mid 20s
Reverse-Flash: 35
Captain Cold: around 40
Zoom: 29
Poison Ivy: mid 30s
Linda Park-West: 24-29
Dreamer: 22
Rick Flag: mid 30s
Alan Scott: 113 (physically mid-late 40s)
Catwoman: around 30
Iris West: 35
Carol Ferris: 33-35
Guy Gardner: mid 30s
Two-Face: 35
Riddler: 35
Cheetah: early 30s
John Stewart: 29
Kimiyo Hoshi: around 30
Bane: mid 30s
Steve Trevor: mid 30
Kyle Rayner: mid 20s
Cassie Sandsmark: 18
Jade: 22
Obsidian: 22
Yara Flor: 21
Simon Baz: 22
Jessica Cruz: 22
Talia al Ghul: 32
Sinestro: decades older (physically 50-ish)
Ocean Master: 28-32
Soranik Natu: unknown (physically mid 20s)
Ra's al Ghul: 600-ish (physically 40s)
Melinda Lin-Grayson: around 30
Jo Mullein: early 30s
Penguin: 48
Mera: early 30s
Damian Wayne: 14
Black Manta: mid 30s
Ma & Pa Kent: 60-ish
Tempest: 25
Jackson Hyde: 18
Connor Hawke: late 10s
Speedy: 18
Red Arrow: 15
Kid Flash: 17
Billy Batson: 16
Amanda Waller: mid 40s
Mary Marvel: 18
Black Adam: 3,000+
Khalid Nassour: 23
Ted Kord: mid-late 20s
Booster Gold: around 26
Jaime Reyes: 18
Mister Terrific: early 30s
Hawkwoman: early 20s
Plastic Man: around 100 (physically 30s)
Zatanna: 33
John Constantine: 40
Hawk: 24-25
Dove: 22
Lady Shiva: 40
Ted Grant: 110-130 (physically late 40s)
Jakeem Thunder: 17-18
Rick Tyler: 24
Power Girl: 24-25
Ray Palmer: mid 30s
Elongated Man: mid 30s
Animal Man: mid 30s
Animal Girl: 13
Irey & Jai West: 13
Terra: 22
Deathstroke: 57
Rose Wilson: 18
Blackfire: 26
Vixen: 24
Black Lightning: early 40s
Katana: around 30
Fire: late 20s
Ice: late 20s
Orion: ancient (physically 30)
Sand: 99 (physically 25)
Pieter Cross: early 30s
Mister Miracle: ancient (physically 30)
Jim Gordon: 50s
Atom Smasher: 22
Big Barda: ancient (physically 30)
Starman (Jack): 27-30
Bumblebee: 25-26
Lobo: mid 30s-40?
Cheshire: mid-late 20s
Lian Harper: 13
Captain Atom: 34
Adam Strange: early-mid 30s
Rita Farr: 71 (physically 30)
Barbara Gordon: around 25
Question (vic): 35
Metamorpho: mid 30s
Renee Montoya: 35-36
Ryan Choi: 20
Huntress: 25-26
Punchline: early 20s
Lucius Fox: 50s
Deadshot: mid 30s
Mercy Graves: late 20s
Lady Blackhawk: late 20s
I've read Gail Simone's Birds of Prey, Mike Grell's Green Arrow, Geoff Johns' JSA, Kevin Smith's Green Arrow, Judd Winnick's Green Arrow. And Specifically Dinah Laurel Lance.
Preferably older stories (New Earth)
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How do you guys feel about the likely possibility that we’ll get a teen titans movie before a justice league? Is it weird to have the titans established before the league? What work around do you think they could use?
How Batman, Superman, Barry Allen, Hal, and Aquaman are all in their mid 30s, while the Titans are all in their early-mid 20s. I honestly thought Batman was like 45 and Nightwing (and the titans) were like 30 by now. The sliding timeline is so weird.
What are your thoughts on that? And also does anyone wanna discuss a headcanon Timeline...?
of the new DC X Sonic crossover coming in a few days?
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What I've read: Wonder Woman by Brian Azzarrello, Hiketeia, George Perez run.
Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow. Catwoman by Ed Brubaker.
Birds of Prey by Gail Simone, JSA, Green Arrow by Mike Grell
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So I was climbing up the DC power hierarchy, which is incredibly inconsistent by the way, and one of the top like 30 guys was the Phantom Stranger. I know he's a reality manipulator, like Nabu or the Spectre (kinda in between) but I wasn't sure of his exact origins, so i did some digging. Turns out he's got about five different origins in the comics. One says he was a guy living during the age of Christ and I think his family was killed or something in the massacre of the innocents, so he spends years trying to take revenge on Christ and is cursed to wander the earth till the second coming bla bla bla. Another says he was Judas Iscariot, ha, and was cursed to wander the earth, another said he was a fallen angel that didn't take sides during the War of Heaven and was also cursed to wander the earth, another says he was an angel banished to earth because he had some affair with another angel or something. Heck I think I even found one that said he's an adult Jon Kent??? Anyway, I wanted to ask which origin you think is your favorite, or if you know any other origin(s), or if you've got some cool theory or suggestions for an origin that just might work. Sorry this post is too long.
I've been reading some DC One Million, not the best at all if I'm being honest with very Marvel-like writing, but I am quite intrigued by the concept of the super distant far future. But I am just not convinced in the slightest bit that this would be the 853rd century. For instance, Batman One Million's batsuit's internal hard drive is described as being 10 times faster than the modern day (which btw was 1998 when this was written in reference) Batcave super computer.
Like only 10 time faster? I'd assume this should at least be comparable to a Mother Box but I guess a prototype Batman-modified NASA computer from 1998 being able to be 10 times faster and small enough to fit into a suit was seen as very eye-opening. Fun fact: the most powerful computer in the world in 1997 was the Intel ASCI Red which had 1.06 Teraflops of power and it was 150 square meters in size (I'd assume Batman (1998) owned one of these or something like it). In 2024, just 27 years later, a game system (the PS5 Pro) has 16.7 Teraflops and it weighs only 3 kilograms.
We aren't talking about 50 years in the future like in Cyberpunk where tungsten core railguns are standard issue, or 500 years in the future like in Halo, where a pistol hits several times harder than a modern-day elephant gun, or even tens of thousands of years in the future like Warframe, Eve Online, or Warhammer 40k, where the warfare is on such an insane scale with firepower that we would consider being a WMD is merely a standard issue artillery gun, but rather over 85,000 years in the future. I would more of assume we'd have tech similar to that of the Engineers from Prometheus or the Forerunners from Halo: technology that feels so visually alien to us and feels like magic, but I guess even going that far in the future when it comes to DC One Million, it's basically just the modern day but there are lasers and aliens now. The Xeelee Sequence in contrast is quite a convincing setting for the ultra-far future where entire celestial entities such as black holes are merely computers for calculations.
I am going to talk a bit of 40k lore but bear with me on this because it is related. In Warhammer 40k, it is very silly of course that there is WW1-style trench warfare and medieval-style peasantry in the hyper-advanced setting, but the setting is rather justified on why everything is so archaic and primitive. This is because in 40k, technology was advancing at a progressive rate where humanity had tech so overpowered, it was like magic, almost like Warframe in how alien it was but notch 11.
But then the technology turned against its users because once the technology powered by AI achieved the "singularity" of AI knowledge, it automatically always decides all organic life needs to cease to exist which began in the 23rd millennium (Cybernetic Revolt). And if you read "I have no mouth and I must scream," a god-like AI that wants to kill everything is the scariest thing ever (and things turn grimdark fast). This "singularity" is almost like going at the speed of light: you cannot ever reach it, but if you manage to reach the speed of light 100% (likely by having technology advanced enough), you will cease to exist from the physical universe as you approach the end of time (due to the laws of relativity). Except for the AI, they make everything else cease to exist as they reach the maximum singularity.
Moving on, two thousand years later after mankind being victorious over the AI machine gods, leading to the Age of Strife, the remnants of humanity salvage the remains of what was left of their lost hyper-advanced civilization, and now with no AI to properly pilot/operate it, due to outlawing AI which quickly became a superstition.
The result is that you end up with a Mad Max style apocalypse but instead of utilizing modern firearms/hardware tools in makeshift and crude ways, they utilize hyper-advanced minerals/artifacts of the golden age of man and use them in crude and archaic ways. To paraphrase, the warfare is primitive but the technology is absurdly powerful, almost like having a flintlock musket except it fires out mini supernovas. Its crude yet effective warfare where Warhammer 40k acknowledges its setting is very primitive and archaic, but still does not forget that its setting has very steep power levels due to how far warfare has advanced (armor, firepower, etc).
In other words, it just feels like bad writing to say the setting of DC One Million takes place several tens of thousands of years into the future without any deep thought. At least an acknowledgment of technological stagnation or civilization being completely wiped out and then restarted so that the world-building can be more believable. Justice League 3,000 had this issue as well where things really do not appear to be any more advanced than the Batman Beyond universe which only takes place around 50 years from now. Like after the Beyond timeline, did Darkseid or someone more powerful just freeze earth's time for a thousand years, and then after JL 3000, he just froze time again but this time for 80,000?
Anyway, I hope you guys had fun reading this because I put a lot more time into this than I should have. DC One Million getting a revamp would be a really cool idea, taking some inspiration from settings like 40k or Dune
Just some moodboards here because Warframe does an amazing job at visually portraying the alienness of the heavily distant future
