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I for one would be intrigued by such a new story, especially after Doomsday Clock crossed over the Watchmen characters with the main D.C. universe, heroes, and villains that we've all come to know and love over time. But what would you all think of such a follow-up?
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On one hand, you could argue he was a villain as he killed half of New York.
You could also call him an anti-hero as he did it all to create world peace, which he did.
Discuss in the comments...
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The Original comic book
The Movie Adaptation
HBO miniseries
Doomsday Clock (Sequel)
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I think snyder is over hated this movie is a masterpiece IMO snyder had a GORGEUS comic accuracy on this cinecomic i loved the watchmen comic and this film is really similar to the comic I LOVE IT it's a 9/10 because some stuff was cancelled by the final cut but in the directors cut in 4 hours we can see more and in that case is a 10/10 (sorry for the grammatical errors but i am italian so...)
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So I just finished reading Watchmen and I think we can all agree it’s brilliant, but afterwards I watched the 2009 film version of Watchmen directed by Zack Snyder and I think it’s very underrated.
It’s perfectly faithful to the comic, unlike some films like V for Vendetta (which I haven’t seen but from the clips I have seen, it seems like it deviates a lot from the comic) and it didn’t have to add a bunch of pointless other things to pad the runtime like the animated version of The Killing Joke. Most of the characters are cast perfectly (especially Rorschach) although there are exceptions like Ozymandias, who cannot pull off a British accent to save his life. Visually, every frame of this film feels like it could have been a panel in the comic, with CGI being used effectively but not so much that it’s distracting from the realism of the story. My only other problem with it is that it leaves out some mildly important parts of the comic to keep a shorter runtime. For example, the psychiatrist character is just sort of there and isn’t nearly as well developed as in the comic, and the same goes for a lot of other characters that get full stories in the book that were restricted to a single scene with little to no dialogue. I was watching the theatrical cut so if anyone saw the directors cut or the ultimate cut it would be good to know if there were any changes made there that fix this.
As for what I think of Snyder in general as a director, I also think he’s really underrated. I think he’s like the George Lucas of directors, in the sense that we don’t really see his genius until years after his “worst” films when we see what happens when a big Hollywood studio like WB or Disney starts to dictate what happens to his ideas. The mere existence of the different versions of the Justice League film are undeniable proof of this. Despite all the criticism they get, I still love Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman and I think that WB should give Snyder more control over the overall story of the DCEU.
A lot of the Gotham, Watchmen, and HBO's Watchmen characters could use updates for their infoboxes. I've made suggestions on the talk pages, but no one's changed them. If people could just read the recommendations and then make their own calls on it, that'd be fine. Thanks!
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In Before Watchmen: Doctor Manhattan, Jon attempts to look back before his conception as Manhattan and creates an alternate timeline where he never becomes Doctor Manhattan and the world ends. The end of the comic sees Jon in a new timeline, the DC timeline, as I like to call it, the world of Before Watchmen, the original Watchmen, and Doomsday Clock. In this case, shouldn't we have pages for both the original Watchmen timeline before Jon looked back, and the alternate timeline he created by accident? I think yes. As for names, "Watchmen: Manhattan Timeline" for the accidental alternate timeline, and "Watchmen: Original Timeline" for the original timeline.
Which Watchmen universe is Tom King's Rorschach canon to? We've placed it under the comics here on the wiki, implying it's in the canon of Watchmen, Before Watchmen, and Doomsday Clock. But King himself specifically stated that it contradicts nothing in the graphic novel or the HBO series, implying it's in the canon of Watchmen and HBO's Watchmen. Plus, the comic makes a reference to an event that happened in Oklahoma, likely referring to the final showdown with Lady Trieu, Cyclops, and Veidt in See How They Fly.
Any insight?
We've been treating Rorschach by Tom King as though it's set in the universe of the Watchmen comics (ie Watchmen, Before Watchmen, Doomsday Clock). But there are a few key details that prove this incorrect, and that it is, in fact, set in canon with HBO's Watchmen universe (Watchmen, HBO's Watchmen, Peteypedia). So here's... that. Like, the details:
The first issue mentions how popular of an identity Rorschach is, even after Kovacs' death years earlier. Not only that, but there's no mention of anyone else (ie, Reggie Long) taking up the mantle. And keep in mind, that was in 1992, and this is 2020. It also points out that it's still popular "even after Oklahoma". Seventh Kavalry, anyone?
The second issue shows Alma Thompson reference the fact that the US winning the Vietnam War made Vietnam a state. I'm pretty sure that's exclusive to Damon Lindelof's work, no?
At DC FanDome, Tom King said "nothing contradicts the show" in the comic, implying that's the world it's set in.
This Tweet from Tom King, the writer of Rorschach, from just a few months ago. Honestly, I should have just led with this:
I reccommend we put the info from Tom King's Rorschach under Watchmen (TV Series) instead of just "Watchmen". It's clearly the correct canon.
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I'm really interested in Doctor Manhattan, but besides Watchmen I don't know what to read.
Hey there, I'm a new comic book reader. Trying to start reading rebirth, can anyone tell me which watchmen series I should read before start reading Rebirth?