Def the original Jon.
I'm fine with it somewhat in aesthetic, but yes. Without gothic monsters, multiple vigilantes and superheroes, all combined with handling secret societies and colorful psychopaths, Gotham just ends up being a very boring typical corrupt city with Batman repeating mostly the same arcs without his family around. It's a repeat phase that needs to end in order to actually start elevating the material in live action.
Both are owned by corporate entities here. One isn't exactly the freedom one when Mario cannot be sitting on a park bench without them arranging every single detail. It's a very excusing double standard on which one is allowed what here.
When your comparison is video game companies with silent protagonists and an unknown game date, to a bad faith grifter argument done before the project even releases? Then yes, it's fair to criticize and is not at all convenient.
Then if it's not about how deep it is, don't pretend they are winning in that department. None of them were. Amalgam, MK v DC. You are setting them against each other in a category they all are not fighting.
And Marvel was in the middle of a writer's strike, and using review bombs as evidence is inauthentic nonsense.
Yeah, that's not a developed crossover though. And a false comparison. If people are hyped for Nintendo's crossover. It's not because they are better at it than everyone else, It's cause they barely do it. Like, they enjoy the whole reaction deal. Cause that's all Subspace is. Pretending it's a complicated story is just not true.
And pretending as if the nostalgia based gatherings are the only successes with Thunderbolts, Ironheart, and potentially Fantastic Four, like... nah. Plus it breaks your point of crossovers to only pick on solo projects and proving the point on teamup movies which destroys your whole thing that Smash is ahead of Marvel in that department. When they aren't.
Yeah, blue is really cool and dynamic when done right.
So you are using an example that only happened once in a series of multiple games without a storyline, and whose story is only JUST reactions because they can't talk?
And are saying Marvel fell off while Nintendo's price hike is kinda in trouble rn?
Eh, depends on your tale. Plus it's kinda an unfair comparison with a Smash style fighting game to say there's no strong cohesive story when that was never the intention compared to other crossover media out there. Where some do have stories involved.
Yeah, even the ones that came back.
Even the models could've used some work.
I mean I guess fans on staff. Plus Warner had a good business relationship with them.
Yeah, though those franchises do actually suit each other. MK and DC were far more of a contrast with moral heroes which is why the Injustice Earth had to be made in the first place to suit it better.
I mean I find it isn't beyond they got the DC license.
Dwayne's movies don't actually do great. Not to the level DC needed. Especially when they exist as vehicles for him and unlike his slightly more successful movies, more brought things back to that wrestling space.
Christopher Reeve very much made the initial foundations of the disguise truly being in a visual medium. So there is a lot of good there. Just not the true personality of the disguise beyond it being used to hide. At least until 2 and 3 showed what was beyond the two shades.
Tyler Hoechlin is a little unfair to that degree because him actually attempting to hide majorly was more something he did over on Supergirl. While here, it was more this in between older Clark Kent who was looking to retire from this constant hiding in the first place. Though when he did for both shows, he did it in a good way. As a pretty decent Clark Kent where the focus was still more in his personality than hiding.
My Adventures With Superman literally has it non-existent, but that's also kind of the point. The characters know who he is pretty early on and Clark's awkward self is still very much the case in either identity for the show's comedic flourish and the friendship based foundation.
David Corenswet we don't really know. He kind of does some of the standard things. Most we got is that he curls his hair as Clark which... is an ugly style and it honestly makes no sense how he does those everyday. Even with superspeed, that would be impossible to keep up.
Well yes, streaming was a whole other problem for everyone in the sphere right now, regardless of the company involved. That still doesn't deny the older era's benefit in having direct to DVD before these films only debuted on streaming spaces mostly.
As for the live action television market, that is the same case. Before streaming, these numbers did matter to give rise to a smaller network. It only wasn't in the major profit lines of far bigger networks like CBS or NBC. That's the misconception in a lot of the stories around Nextstar's current ownership of the network. (Which, by the way, is a far worse situation considering they are making major risks of purchasing more and more shows from other networks not in their demo) The CW kept numbers to just enough to keep on going in terms of what their shows were providing. Which again, worked for the earlier era than the stuff today in the streaming realm.
As for those franchises, Transformers was always primarily a toy brand based from a TV show. So that hardly has been much of an indicator to use. And Star Wars sells the toys when they gain IPs from their shows. Sure, is this more effective when you have a new iconic face like the Mandalorian IP more than something like Andor? Absolutely, but it does happen. And if anything, it's more indicative of how separate the toylines are from the products coming out.
And yes, many do. It's sadly a streaming thing in general to subscribe for a month strictly for the thing coming out that people want and then leave just cause all of these have become so expensive.
Public consciousness. Like everyone already said on this. And it at least doesn't make the opposite measure where the public get a negative interest in this brand instead.
Even if you very much cherry picked very specific portrayals as you have, the only one you were actually right about is Earth-One. The far more inexperienced portrayal in the New 52 still didn't get cities blown up or didn't care whether people would die.
Like, there's a difference between Post-Crisis era Johnathan wishing for his son to be safe and full on not getting that his son is a hero and still encouraging that despite his doubts. Man of Steel, and to more of an extent, BvS, did not get that. Hell, in response, they just doubled down. Usually to prove Batman right, but acting like him getting all the attention was the only problem is still wrong.
And frankly none of the DCEU writers could keep it consistent with this vision considering it's so far removed from what the DC Universe is. So every DC movie is very much outside of the weird elseworld that is BvS or even Man of Steel.