As someone whose favorite character has been Conner for literally nearly as long as you've been alive (iirc you are a teenager)... it's not an argument LOL. I've always got my finger on the pulse of what people know about him, because I'm annoying like that
Not saying they do nothing, but the impact's not very large these days. Even worse, since there's been a disconnect between his comic and show appearances for over a decade, there's actually been a small phenomenon of people expressly not liking the comic version (and adaptations closer to it, like the Reign of the Supermen movie). They started with those shows -- usually YJ -- first and don't like mischievous, comic relief "90s punk" Conner in comparison.
Two sporadic shows isolated onto a single streaming service don't really help much LOL
... I am. Unfortunately, Conner's not as well known as he used to be, and a lot of characters he used to match in popularity exceed him now. I even saw some people who didn't realise there was another Superboy besides Jon! A traumatic moment for me, to say the least LOL
Wow, seeing Conner actually kinda kicking ass in this round against a Justice Leaguer (at least on Twitter) is giving me life I didn't know I had in me. I'm not going to celebrate just yet, there's still days for the tide to turn, but man... Seeing this love for my boy is great
Part of me keeps hoping that at the end they'll be annoying and say "as a special treat, we will do both finalists/all semi-finalists instead of just the winner!", thinking we'll praise them for deciding to do a deathmatch for slightly few creators' jobs than originally intended. I'll still be angry, but something is something, I suppose.
^^Yeah, I'm honestly a little annoyed that the pitch was put to a vote instead of just used. Most pitches are interesting optional tales, but Conner's actually helps fill in a narrative blank that will still exist if it loses.
His 30th anniversary is next year, it's really time to find some new things for him to do! Calling him a Man of Tomorrow instead of Boy of Steel made me excessively happy, and I want more of that. I want to see who he can be now that he's grown up and no longer tied to the expectation of succeeding Clark. It could be so much fun!
I have to be that person, like 5 days late (got a new job, crazy busy). I hate most Red Robin costumes. I'm so sorry, ya'll. They are so weird to me. The winged one looks like his cape got caught in a vacuum but he refused to replace them, and I don't like that the other he looks like he jacked Doctor Mid-Nite's style (also not fond of earless cowls in general).
The latest suit is most pleasing to me visually, but it's not a Red Robin suit... it's just a Robin suit. Get my guy exclusively back into red and black please
Conner made it so much further than I expected. I hope he wins, but I do doubt it at this point. Still, I'm so happy to see all the love for him!
Right?! I will never, ever shut up about how great Doc Shaner is LOL I hope he's on whatever unseen shortlist exists for the winning book, because there's quite a few he'd be great for
^^I love the Wildcat idea too! Give an old cat a chance, DC... My dream Wildcat book would have Doc Shaner because come ON!
Doc Shaner also brought up the idea that we should back Wednesday Comics. I'm not sure how long that'd last in today's comic market, but I love the thought of it. We're really in need of those types of little story sprinklings.
That said. I'm naturally voting for Conner's book as a priority. Given what he's up against, I expect eventually he'll lose to either of the Green Lantern books or Black Canary (my other vote), even if he wins against Cyborg. Who I also wanted to have a book... Life is hard.
I absolutely hate that we have to pick every time. It's so crazy that all of the good ideas from last year are just... unused now. Why do we have to have deathmatches with a bunch of underused characters?!
I really don't get why they couldn't have just used these to instead do an Urban Legends-style book, and then just have the stories start in order of the winning votes. For example, last year would've started with Robins and the 2 runner-ups, and then if the book sold well enough to continue then they'd continue on with the next grouping.
That way at least all of the highest requests make it first, and then all the rest are dependent on something that fans have actual control over. You know, instead of making them eventually vote against themselves and their other desires?
Both. Realistically speaking, the comic "sliding time scale" or whatever means that Jon would've been a young child long after the audience was ready to move on (the first "real" child of Superman has a long list of what people are looking forward to). We've got teen characters hitting their 30th anniversary that are still teens -- hell, even in Marvel where they had no reboot, 30 year old characters have only inched a couple of years.
By making him older unnaturally, we get to see him do more "grown-up" things and still see his younger years through flashback stories -- which they've already done multiple times. Super Sons never really has to stop, if DC doesn't want it to. It's a lot like what Clark's Superboy stories did for him. It's really the best of both worlds, given the circumstances.
Glad it was deleted. Wish the scene that made it in was deleted, too. Keoghan does the role well, but it doesn't change that I don't feel it should exist at all. I really just cannot understand the apparently uncontrollable urge to have 3 live-action Jokers within 5 years.
Definitely prefer Connor as an older teen, if only out of necessity. The way I see it, it's only way he'll might still find use. Even one adult Green Arrow seems to be a non-starter right now... if he was as he'd used to be, I fear he'd disappear straight off the face of the earth.
Superhero teenagers seem to ride each others' coattails almost as tradition, so at least this way he can find life in other peoples' books until the Arrows get their own little corner of the world back. I hope he stays as Damian's friend and starts to make his way around to meet others.
I always saw him Ollie as around that age myself, definitely at least 40 considering Connor is ~21+ (don't know if he was given an exact age, but I remember Roy dragging him to a strip club once... LOL)
@AllOfThePeople A man doesn't have to marry a woman to have a child, or vice versa. Even in the real world you can just... walk into a surrogacy or artificial insemination center.
Given that Kryptonians are in short supply, I'm sure there's no shortage of people willing to be a surrogate mother for the next generation of them.
I mean, when you think about it, you can't really beat "no longer alive" as an excuse to not do something LOL
However old he is, I'm glad he's most definitely not 25 anymore. I hate "main characters are always under 30" syndrome. I love older Ollie