This was just brought up on my message wall, where I made my opposition clear. However, I am wondering what others think about the idea of our creating temporary reality numbers, as the Marvel Database does.
What's on your mind?
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I thought this Fandom was against using any DCAU-inspired comics as references for its pages, and I was assuming it was partially because those comics often tend to contradict the DCAU shows -- as well as each other.
However, I just saw a Batman Beyond Unlimited comic referenced on Mari McCabe's page. One problem with that is that the events of the issue referenced are later contradicted by the events of the Justice League Infinity comics.
The DCAU continuity is already something of a mess within the shows and films themselves, so why reference sources that would muddy things even further?
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Should the "Creators" field on the page of a character who was adapted from another continuity (rather than being an original creation) list the creators of the original incarnation, the creators who introduced that page's version, or both sets? I've seen it a few different ways and I'm not sure which is correct.
Should there be a category for fictional locations/cities?
So this has been something that's been in the back of my head for awhile. The wiki does not have many articles for crossover characters, but for the ones it does have such as Kent Allard and Doc Savage, they're often accompanied with notes such as this:
"The Shadow is a licensed character who is not owned by DC Comics. Nevertheless, his 1973-1975 comic book stories were explicitly placed in DC's Earth-One continuity, so he is included in the DC Comics Database."
"Doc Savage is a licensed character who is not owned by DC Comics. Nevertheless, his 2010-2012 comic book stories were explicitly placed in DC's First Wave continuity, so this version of Doc Savage is included in the DC Comics Database."
This all seems fine and well...but it's not at all consistent with how all crossovers with DC have been handled.
First and foremost is Scooby-Doo characters, who have had a monster amount of crossovers with Batman and the rest of the DCU. As far as I can tell, as I've haven't seen all of these specials, these crossovers did not involve any cross-dimensional muckery and thus can reasonably be assumed to take place within a shared reality between the two. This is even more explicit with Scooby-Doo Team Up, which from what I've read, is very much a shared universe between DC and SD. The same seems to go for its spiritual successor, Scooby-Doo and Batman Mysteries. Team Up also goes the extra mile by baking in DC lore and cosmology into its very storytelling and setting, with a recurring character being Scooby-Mite, a Scooby-Doo version of a 5th Dimensional Imp ala Bat-Mite. SDTU is, by all intents and purposes, a DC story and a Scooby-Doo story at once. By the same logic presented on the notes for Shadow and Doc Savage, would it not make sense for at least some incarnations of Scooby-Doo characters to get articles? Scooby-Doo
I believe a similar case can be made for the RWBY/Justice League crossover, with the RWBY versions of the DC characters being reworked to fit RWBY lore and exist in the same continuity of the main RWBY program. At least, that's from what I've gathered and read.
I will not comment on the (other) Hanna-Barbera crossovers as they're rather loaded and confusing. The Jabberjaw featured in the Aquaman crossover for example is explicitly for another dimension, but a dimension that also had an Aquaman, albeit probably as a fictional character, so I don't think that's valid enough.
That's my comments at least as someone who spends way to much time reading the wiki. If my arguments are not valid for one or another reason, the notes for the Shadow and First Wave articles should be modified as they are currently confusing.
I'm trying to write synopsis for Action Comics v1 #209, and I've ran into trouble - the primary antagonist of this issue is a man that is never named. He has no codename, and no real name, even though he has superpowers and a costume. It's also his only appearance.
The secondary antagonist of the issue has a given name, "Doc" Winters, but the other guy appears way more throughout the issue.
There's nothing in the Manual of Style about such a situation. What do I do? Currently I wrote "unnamed man with superpowers" as a placeholder. Should I just... make up a name? Leave it as "unnamed man"?
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Hello All, not sure if this is the right place to ask this kind of question, however I was wondering if there is a way to sort a character's appearances by date instead of alphabetically?
The Admin’s just flagged someone for coloring a picture of some heroes from Earth-Two, because they were “self promoting” or “showing fan art”. This is ridiculous! People need to be able to share however they experience superheroes on this fandom. Wether it’s non-profit fan-fiction, concepts that people come up with just to have a fun discussion with like-minded individuals, or just a well-colored already existing picture! This is unacceptable and we need to stand up to this on these forums! The guidelines are too strict! Please speak up about this too if you agree!
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Everything in [[:Category:October 6, 2021 (Publication)]] should be dated October 5. Please fix this.
You need to set up the new FandomDesktop skin - right now it's not even showing the wiki wordmark.
https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MisterWoodhouse/The_FandomDesktop_opt-in_is_now_LIVE
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So the superboy page is, to be blunt, a hot mess. It combines two unrelated characters and tries to pass them off as one. I think the new 52 superboy should be in his own page while the current one stays as the main prime earth.
I'm curious if there's any official policy on adding cover prices to comic book entries - issues, collections, etc.
In skimming through various pages, I don't see any comic book entries that contain cover price information. Is that intentional? Would there be any interest, or opposition, to adding that information? I imagine it would need to be added to the template.
Thanks.
<p>I recently created an article for Mayor Sheppard but did not include the Earth designation at the time for one simple reason. For some characters, including Batman, there was no definitive switchover from Earth-Two to Earth-One. His Golden Age adventures gradually morphed into the Silver Age and the entirety of his Golden adventures are canon to his Silver. It's disingenous to say that his early/mid 50s adventures take place on Earth-2 OR Earth-1 because we simply do not know.
</p><p>Similarly, there is an "interrim period" of comics that take place after the Crisis on Infinite Earths but BEFORE the effects of the Crisis kick in. For example, Batman 392-399 where Jason Todd has his original backstory. These comics cannot take place on Earth-1, but they also cannot be said to take place on New Earth.
</p><p>As such, I suggest that there be an "Undefined Earth" designation for certain characters. I have simply seen way too many articles that claim a character is from an Earth that they are really not.
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<p>We have two ways of disambiguating: (Universe) and (Description). For example, Ricochet I (New Earth) vs Ricochet (Vehicle). I propose to move everything that isn't a universe to the lower case. Disambigs generally don't have capital letters (as they're not new sentences) and this could make the distinction a bit clearer.
</p><p>Ideas? Suggestions? Foreseen problems?
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<dl><dd><i>Ofc, all the moving would be done by me, once I've got my current project done. And cleaned up the regular maintenance that I've let slip these past weeks.</i>
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<p>Should posessed people be classed as villains of specific character on their own pages? I am talking about templates likes Batman villain or Superman villain. This is especially relevant given that many heroes became villains for many issues under Batman Who Laughs' infection and control. I believe they shouldn't be though others may think otherwise, which is why I'm asking.
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<p>I've been told that moving images is not possible for normal users. Which is sad given that it can really helo cut down on time and repeated requests for correction.
</p><p>But I know that Fandom does allow normal users to replace images. I think admins should allow that because with it we'll be able to replace an image which might not be proper or correct or maybe of lower quality.
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<p>We've been using the fake namespace Actors: for years, it's one of a few relics of the early days. But it makes entirely no sense, and creates pointless duplication when an actor happens to have directed something. I think it's time to fix that, especially now we solved the duplicate real name issue.
</p><p>Here's an inventory I made: User:Tupka217/Actors. There are only two where the overlap is not for the same person: Matt Ryan and Ted Knight. Those can be Matt Ryan (Actor) etc.. For the rest, just using the main name would be fine.
</p><p>The other issue is the template; what to do with that. I'm leaning towards making Actor a sub-template of the Staff template (much like {{Green Lantern Sector}} is just an application of the location template) with a separate /Credits subpage for their credits.
</p><p>Any other ideas/suggestions?
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<p>One of the most common types of recommendations among comic readers are specific runs. "Mike Grell's run on Green Arrow" or "Alan Moore's run on Swamp Thing", such stuff.
</p><p>However, there is currently NO way on the internet to find out out how long a specific creative team was on the title. If a run wasn't collected in a trade, you have basically little chances of finding out about it, barring going issue by issue - for example, I recently found out that Mike Grell had a short-lived run on Iron Man (I know that's Marvel, it's just an example) simply by randomly clicking issues on Iron Man vol 3 on the Marvel wiki. Similarly, I found out that Ed Brubaker wrote some Batman stories in early 2000s simply because I randomly found an old trade of these stories, I had no idea he did.
</p><p>Similarly: how many of yall reading this did know that Alan Moore wrote an issue of Vigilante, and some Green Arrow backups in Detective Comics? If you did, it's very likely because you stumbled on a trade of DC Alan Moore stories.
</p><p>I propose we do something to alleviate that. Here are some suggestions on how this can be implemented:
</p><p>1) Headers:
</p><p>The volume pages already contain headers that divide issues into groups. However, currently they seem to almost entirely divide it into arbitrary numbers like 1-50 that means absolutely nothing to the reader, and do nothing that can't be accomplished by ctrl+F. We can rework these headers to instead point to eras of specific creative teams.
</p><p>Of course in some cases runs aren't obvious or consistent, like e.g. Bronze Age Batman that constantly changed creators - but we could still divide it into eras, so Batman vol.1 would get Golden Age, Silver Age, Julius Schwartz No-Joker Age, New Look, Bronze Age - and then actual consistent runs like Chuck Dixon or Alan Grant etc.
</p><p>That of course would require manually changing every volume page, so it'd be pretty work intensive in the long run to do for every volume page on the wiki.
</p><p>2) Credits:
</p><p>I don't know how possible it is with Wikia software, but I wonder if we could somehow create a system where a direct link to a comic - at least on the volume pages - displays the names from the "writer" and "artist" infobox (or nothing if article doesn't have an infobox) next to it. Or perhaps hovering mouse over the link could do that? It'd still require users to manually search for runs, but it'd make it hell of a lot more convenient than current trial and error.
</p><p>3) A dedicated article:
</p><p>Each book, or at least major book, would get a special "runs" article that describes most notable/recommended by consensus creative teams on the books, and on which issues they worked. We could use subpages for each volume for that, like "Batman Vol 2/Recommended Runs". Similarly, that article could be simply amended new section inside "Recommended Reading" pages.
That's probably easiest option to implement, but only partially solves the problem, as it wouldn't allow for easily searching for more obscure runs.
</p><p>I know that's a huge undertaking, but it would make the DC Wiki drastically more useful for comic lovers looking to expand their horizons, and for beginners looking to educate themselves and find their tastes.
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<p>There's bound to be more than one person with a certain name, and there's bound to be people who share their name with a character. There are a couple of problematic ones.
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- Tim Hunter (see talk). Especially now that he's got a series again, it's Bad SEO<sup>TM</sup> to hatnote people to a non-standard redirect and have the main page be a one episode director we probably never will know anything about.
- Thor. Current is not a solution.
- The real issue: Bob Smith and other Bob Smith. We've named him Rob as a place holder, but that's not his name.
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