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Death

The new Death field properly categorizes the character as dead, but I don't see the field showing up in the article (ex. see Kirk Quentin (Earth-One)). Roygbiv666 13:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Universe

With the advent of the new 52 Multiverse, do we need to have an explanation of how to fill in the "Universe" section of the template? What if they were on Earth-Two and New Earth - it doesn't seem to recognize the word "and" or a comma. See Commander Steel for an example. Or, should we be using "New Earth" for current stuff, or "DC Universe" - I think New Earth would be correct.

-Roygbiv666 21:04, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Finally updated, only took a year and a half to get to. Now you can have the character in two universes two different ways. You can put the second universe in 'Universe2', or you can put both in 'Universe', separated by a semi-colon.
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 17:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Can we agree on an approach for when a Universe is unknown. That is, if we add Sunshine Superman, can we put his reality as "Earth-Unknown" and have it auto-categorize all such articles so that we know which entries need to be updated? Or do we already have such a thing?
Roygbiv666 00:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Rather than use something weird like Earth-Unknown, why don't we just have it autocat if the field is left blank?

- Billy Arrowsmith (Talk), 00:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


As long as that's fully documented on the Template. Some people use "Earth-?" (my favorite) or "Earth-???" etc etc. At least it would be automatic and categorize the characters in one group.
Roygbiv666 01:25, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Billy, did you add an autocat for this? I'd suggest that if Universe is blank, a category is included like Category:Universe Needed, or something.
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 15:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmm? I haven't added anything. Good idea though, that's probably what we'll go with. Agreed, Roy?

- Billy Arrowsmith (Talk), 18:50, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
As long as it's notated, the naming isn't all that important - "Category:Universe Needed" or "Category:Reality Unknown" works for me.
Roygbiv666 23:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

References

WHere do references go? I'm not sure how some of these heading match up to what appears on screen.

-Roygbiv666 21:00, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Here's an answer long time coming. Surround your references with the references tags: <ref>Reference</ref>. They'll automatically be put in the References section (Now 'Footnotes') under the Links and References header.
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 18:38, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Missed a spot ^^>

First off I must say this is some pretty hardcore program here and my condolences to the programer. Secondly I feel there are some things missing, specifically in the "See Also" section. It states character appearances (in other books) but there isn't a link to the character's own series. Can we fix this? I would myself but the template is protected. Ruthborn 14:04, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

This is a great idea, finally implemented today, using the CurrentAlias as the comic title to look for. Take a look at Kal-El (New Earth)#See Also. ;)
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 18:43, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Next could there be a Character reception and critisism section since the Custom sections are now practicularly designated as Recommended Reading and Related Articles sections in the character pages. Ruthborn 14:04, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

See: #Recommended.
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 18:43, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Gender Field

When any of you DC admins get the chance, will you update the template here with the one on the Marvel side? I don't have admin rights over here yet, and there's a small bug that puts in some garbage stuff next to gender when it's not filled in. The Marvel side has it fixed. Thanks!
--Your Friendly Neighborhood Peteparker (talkcontribsemail) 08:32, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I believe this should be done now.
I took care of this late last night. :)
--Jamie 20:34, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Autocategorization

Didn't this autocategorize by the "Universe" field? Or am I crazy?

Roygbiv666 04:04, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Yup, it should still. . . Especially since I just updated it. :)
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 17:50, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia Link

Is there any way we can get the Wikipedia links at the bottom to use the "CurrentAlias" instead of the pagename? This is purely aesthetic, but I just think it would be better to have pages say like
"The Ventriloquist" at Wikipedia.org

rather than

"Peyton Riley (New Earth)" at Wikipedia.org
Billy 01:11, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree that using PAGENAME is pretty fugly. I fiddled with it a bit, but my changes weren't working, so I just reverted it. One possible problem is a lot of folks are putting brackets around the Current Alias section, presumably to link it to a disambig page (which seems redundant because of distinguish, but whatever). The brackets probably would screw up the link. --Profzoom 01:32, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Well I applaud you for trying anyway. Yeah, I've been going around trying to fix that where I can; Oh well, maybe sometime in the future.
Billy 02:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

See if it works now. I tweaked the template a bit. :)
--Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 04:49, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Brilliant.
- Billy Arrowsmith, 05:47, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Debut Dates

This isn't necessarily something we need (I've just been including them in parentheses after the first issue), but is there anyway we could have an optional section for the year a character debuted? It would just be nice not to have to sort of shove it in with the other stuff. This goes for other templates too, particularly the Event Template.

- Billy Arrowsmith 00:48, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
For those of you who are reading this later, this issue has been fixed so that the template provides the month and year for the first and last issues if those issues are properly templated as well.
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 18:35, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
On a similar note, Recommended Reading is an important part of any character page. But we constantly have to either add it in manually "==Recommended Reading==", or put it in as a Custom Field. Could we have a more official/efficient way of putting it in? Related articles also. There's an automatic "See Also" field, but you can't add anything to that, at least to my knowledge. SO many articles have both "Related Articles" and "See Also", which is a little silly. Thoughts?
- Billy Arrowsmith, 07:16, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
See: #Recommended.
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 18:35, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Documentation needed

This template really, really needs some "How to Use" instructions, and an update to include ALL optional fields. There are apparently some "hidden" options that don't show up anywhere on the project page or here.[1] The Paradox 22:57, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I completely agree. I put it on my to do list, but haven't gotten to it yet. We've grown so much so fast that it's hard to keep up with it all. Plus, there are slight differences between the Marvel one and the DC one now. It'd be good to keep track of all that as well.
--Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 23:27, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

New features

Features I'd like to see added:

  • MaritalStatus2, with the added option of Remarried (with automatic categorization into Category:Remarried), for those characters that have divorced or been widowed and remarried, or made single due to continuity changes. Perfect for Alan Scott, Lex Luthor and Peter Parker.
  • Universe2, also with automatic categorization, for those characters that started out Pre-Crisis and continued post-Crisis virtually unchanged, or fit into that nebulous publishing time when Earth-One and Earth-Two weren't so clearly defined.
  • For Universe and Universe2 to categorize into "Earth whatever Characters" instead of the parent category, "Earth whatever." Makes more sense and keeps the parent category listings to a reasonable size.
  • Add Quotation and Speaker, and any other undocumented options, to the "Optional Fields" section.
  • Add AlienRace, Recommended and Related to the "Empty Syntax (Standard Options)" section, since they are applicable to a vast number of articles.
Let the discussion begin. :) The Paradox 20:16, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
I agree with the "Earth whatever Characters" feature, I keep forgetting to bring it up. Even though it's in the name, it makes sense to sub-categorize them. If it's "New Earth" then, "New Earth Characters", obviously.
Roygbiv666 21:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Category:Universe Characters has been put into the templates, and on Marvel as well. Great idea. :)
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 19:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


MaritalStatus2

Instead of MaritalStatus2 with auto-categorization, I added the option to separate multiple statuses in MartialStatus by semi-colons. MaritalStatus2 was also created, but more for a way of explaining more about the info in MaritalStatus without having to worry about messing up the autocategorization. Is remarried that much different from Married as far as a status? If they're pretty much the same, but you'd like it to say 'remarried' instead of Married, we could work it in the template so that when Remarried is put into the field, the page is categorized under Married Characters instead of Remarried Characters.

Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 19:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I guess from a legal standpoint there's really no difference. I was just thinking it would be nice to see a category for those who got lucky a second time around. ;) It could always be a subcat of married... The Paradox 18:21, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Universe2

See: #Universe.

Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 19:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Optional Fields

Updated. :)

Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 19:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Standard Options

AlienRace was purposely kept out of the Standard Options, to downplay its use. Jamie felt it should be optional if included at all. For Recommended, see #Recommended. I don't think there's any 'Related' field yet, was that something people were needing? How many articles use the Custom sections for it?

Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 19:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

From what I've seen, people want to make note of alien characters. Since the "AlienRace = " field is not that visible, such info often gets plugged into the Citizenship or Origin field, which causes a discrepancy between plural and singular forms of the word (Kryptonians v Kryptonian) and effects the categorization for Race and Nationality as well as setting us up for incomplete/inaccurate information. (see Category:Kryptonian and Category:Kryptonians.) Superman is a Kryptonian with American citizenship, Lightning Lad is a Winathian with United Planets citizenship, but neither can be accurately conveyed without the AlienRace field. In some ways, it's like saying Human = American. The Paradox 18:21, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
After playing around with this a bit more, I think most of the problems can be solved by simply causing the "AlienRace = " field to cat into a plural form of the word (except for the "Gods of _______" series). That way it matches the citizenship format, so they're basically interchangable for individual categorization purposes. The Paradox 12:16, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Recommended

Mentioned a couple times on this page, the need for a Recommended Reading section has been added to the template. Use the 'Recommended' field to add to it. The Recommended field has been added to the standard options on both the documentation and the template button above the edit bar. Feel free to add it anywhere else that is necessary. :)

Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 18:52, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Volume 1 of this Character's self-titled series

This is a great feature. Could we expand this to include more volumes? People like Aquaman have up to I think at least 6. Also, would there be any possibility of expanding it to include the "Alias" section if that was entered using semi-colons? For people like Billy Batson, who spent most of their careers under one popular title but recently switched.

- Billy Arrowsmith (Talk), 16:35, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
It's also not without it's problems, such as when the first volume is about an entirely different character. Examples include:
  1. Hector Hall (New Earth) - Dr. Fate Vol 1 is about Eric and Linda
  2. Garfield Logan (Titans Tomorrow) - Vol 1 is about Buddy Baker
  3. Cheyenne Freemont (New Earth) - this is hardly Dick Grayson
  4. Aa (New Earth)
  5. Pathavim Seth-Ottarak (New Earth)
  6. Kyle Rayner (New Earth)
  7. Just about any of the Green Lanterns, regardless of when or where they were introduced
  8. The Tangent Plastic Man has never had his own series
Anyway, you get the idea. Is there a work-around for this? The Paradox 17:52, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Hmmmm. . . I'm open to ideas.
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 07:04, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Quotation placement

Can the quotation be forced above to appear above the TOC, as it does on comic issue pages? The Paradox 18:39, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

I think that is done, I don't see the TOC's, so let me know if it's still wacky.
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 07:05, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Image categories

Is there a link to the Category that contains character images, i.e. Category:Ranx (New Earth)/Images, as well as the Gallery? I'm not seeing one. The Paradox 18:39, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

That's in the gallery template.
- Billy Arrowsmith (Talk), 23:26, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
So it's not available directly from the Character page? I think that it should be added. The gallery and the category of images are often wildly different. The Paradox 05:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
It's on there now, if the category exists, there'll be a link in the see also section.
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 06:58, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Citizenship/Nationality - plural or singular?

I'm confused as to what's happening here. Was the way the template handles Citizenship recently changed? Articles seem to be migrating to the plural form of their Nationality (Category:Mexicans rather than Category:Mexican), exactly the opposite of a few days ago. Category redirects don't cause the individual entries to redirect; I tested it extensively a few hours ago on several American characters, watching them disappear from Category:American and reappear in Category:Americans even though that was redirected to Category:American at the time. Can somebody explain what's going on? The Paradox 18:39, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

It's an issue with unity across the sites, that I brought up on the the Characters by Nationality Category talk page.
Marvel uses Nationalities, DC uses Nationality. To me, it makes sense to have the plural form, like this is a list of 'Americans' versus this character is 'American'.
Since there was no feedback, I suppose there's no opposition to this anymore, so i can go ahead and finish the move.
Redirects work on categories, but you have to redirect to [[:Category:Foo instead of [[Category:Foo, and the pages in the category aren't automatically changed over, unfortunately.
You should try throwing in United States in there, it does the same thing. ;)
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 04:48, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Plural is fine, as long as there's unity between Character and Minor templates. As the singluar forms are emptied out they can be deleted. I have to say, it's kinda hard to follow exactly what your edits to the templates are intended to do sometimes, which makes it difficult to learn from watching. ;) Is there a way to track down categories that are redirects? I have a feeling that there's a lot of them with buttloads of "lost" articles. The Paradox 05:11, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Here's where it starts, the redirects are in italics. Good luck to you sir!
I'll probably redirect the singular categories to their plural forms when they're emptied, FYI.
Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 06:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Affiliation

Regarding the existing:
| Affiliation = AFFILIATION

Could we have it create a link to the affiliation and autocategorize the characters as a "Current Member"? So, if they were affiliated with the JLA, it would autocategorize the characters as "Category:JLA Member"?

Similarly, if we add say
| Previous Affiliation = AFFILIATION

and have it create "Category:Former JLA Member", then we would be autmatically creating category lists of members of stuff. Then we could eliminate the Team lists and just use categories.

Roygbiv666 01:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

This was brought up on the forums awhile back. The only problem I could see coming up with this would be where we have things like Punch, "affiliate of Jewlee" or something like that. Otherwise, I really like this idea.
- Billy Arrowsmith (Talk), 01:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Typo

The new 'images featureing' section has one. It's 'featuring'.

- Billy Arrowsmith (Talk), 23:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Auto categorization

Is there still a reason why this is adding articles to Quotes Page Needed and Appearances Page Needed since those types of pages are being phased out? The Paradox 02:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

== Oliver Queen ==Oliver do you who is this Talking to you i think the things that you did to me that was hurt me i think we need to stop and think for what words come out of your mouth

Hi this is MRS. Gage mills i need some info on CEO and when the Queen Family was Brought to Olean last few years after Oliver came to me and i watched him after i came home From Star City at night i am righting about Olivers sex lives that he had with women all the time i got to go now

I'm sorry. What?
- Billy Arrowsmith (Talk), 23:58, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Colors

Could someone look at the colors, please.

The defaults for Black Lanterns, Orange Lanterns, Indigo Tribe, and Star Sapphires make all four types of text - basic, untouched link, used link, and red link - hard to read. The Black Lantern one is especially hard, actually almost impossible, to read.

- Byfield 23:00, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Update

Could we have some white text and yellow links for certain themes to make them easier to read? Also could we have a 20px sized emblem on the upper left corner of the infobox based on the theme like the Green Lantern emblem for Green Lantern articles? SeanWheeler 15:28, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

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