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Arise Etrigan

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  • And that's that. Religious freedom doesn't have anything to do with oppressing others or creating hate against them. Locking my posts because of your "disagreement" isn't going to change that. Thankfully you're not an admin who tolerates homophobia and never will be.

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    SforHope
    SforHope closed this thread because:
    Closed as per user's request. Not removed as to keep the record of the interactions.
    20:39, June 27, 2020
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    • I've reviewed the thread.

      Outright, we do not tolerate homophobia. The user who posted the homophobic comment - I have no holdups saying I think they're pretty dumb and I don't personally want to work with them in any capacity. With that said, we also don't block people after one example of being dumb - nor two in this case.

      Things I'd like to draw attention to are:

      MatteJohnny, you're leading this crusade without much of a leg to stand on. In my opinion, your original post was mildly homophobic in its own right. Whether you intended to or not, it was what is known as a dog whistle, where a majority of the readers could conceive it as a post defending Alan Scott, there's a segment of users that could interpret it as the anti-inclusion, anti-gay proactiveness that I saw through it as. You can't bring up a topic like "Alan Scott shouldn't be gay" and be surprised that idiots in the comments agree with you, and then complain about intolerance.

      Also, regarding tolerance, we can block on the grounds of "Intimidating Behavior/Harassing", which homophobia would probably fall under. In the same way that the comment user was allowed three strikes for being dumb, in my opinion, this is your second strike for harassing a user on my side of the database.

      Even if you disagree with the way a moderator has handled your post and their decision to lock them when deemed necessary, I find it beyond rude the way you've decided to bring these fights to my side and clog up my feed with this (frankly harassing) behavior, when the discussion moderators have shown impressive level-headed defense in return.

      If you hadn't announced your resignation in a discussion post, I would warn you to stop being such a bully when moderators moderate. We promote an inclusive environment here, and any form of antagonism to our users - homophobic or otherwise - is taken with the utmost severity.

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    • Haroldrocks I'm not resigning, just decreasing activity. That's not the same. And you're supposed to be an administrator. Isn't checking something whether it clogs up your feed or not your responsibility? If you don't like resolving an argument between two users, then resign. It's not like I'm posting very long messages like you.

      You claim my original post was mildly homophobic to mount a defense for Arise Etrigan. In my post I had clearly said that DC didn't adequately promote new LGBT characters (because Alan Scott is anyway forgotten). Someone homophobic won't say that. While you're okay with the moderator telling me to tolerate something that is explicitly spreading hate and being hateful.

      Nothing I said is harassment of any sort. I have simply pointed out what he said. Your threats don't scare me. I confronted someone, that was the right thing to do.

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  • Dear Arise Etrigan, It has come to my attention that you have recently locked one of my posts, telling me to “read the guidelines” when all I did was ask a question for my project. I would like to know what guideline I broke and find out how I could edit my post in order to make it fit the guidelines.

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  • Why has this page been edited? It was fine as it was. Katar Hol wasnt a police officer until before death. If you read Savage Hawkman Vol 1 and 2 you would know this. Read the comics before you make the wrong edits

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    • No. Learn the Database guidelines before making wrong edits.

      As I stated in the notes of the reversion, you wrongly changed the template which is why his marital status disappeared. You also added height without any citation where you got that information from. All height and weight stats must be sourced. All the other info you added was also not sourced.

      I also didn't revert anything regarding him being a police officer. I don't known where you got that idea.

      If you still believe you are in the right you are welcome to take it up with one of our fine administrators.

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    • Well someone made the wrong edits regarding his occupation. I thought this was a page for infomation not false info

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    • It is. That’s why you need to cite vital statistics, so we know it’s not fake.

      And as I said, your edit that I reverted never contained information regarding his occupation so it is irrelevant to keep bringing it up.

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  • Have you seen this? If so, what are your thoughts?http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/76096_Superman_%26_Krypto_Team-Up

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    • This is good news I needed after just seeing Justice League. Shame ‘Bo doesn’t have his hook and chain but I can devise one.

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    • And isn't it wonderful that they didn't try to weasel in Batman and the umpteenth version of the Bat-Space-Jetpack?

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    • If you’re going to pair Lobo with anyone, Superman makes most sense and Krypto is a bonus. Odd they didn’t included Dawg for balance.

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  • I saw you've been filling out a couple JLA issues that included these guys. I made a rough team page but I only have the first two issues on hand at the moment. Any chance you could flesh out the history section a little more?

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  • Thanks for adding all that extra information and those appearances.

    Didn't realize I'd left out that stuff.

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  • Unhappily, your citation about demons' vulnerability to iron is invalid... Animated versions of characters aren't "mainstream", only comic book versions (exception: Elseworld stories). Please understand that there can often be glaring differences between the animated and comic book versions of a character. For example, Lobo, who in the comic books gets multiple bullet holes (but not die) is completely invulnerable to bullets in Young Justice animated series. Kowalewski (talk) 10:08, August 24, 2017 (UTC)

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    • Sorry, but I used non-Vertigo comic citations in Hell article. See the first paragraph of Hell#Geography. Ok, I will stop with noinclude. I only think that it is easier to refute a popular misconception if it is already contained in the article along with the refutation between noinclude. The publisher who has the misconception in mind would edit the article, see the refutation and leave the article unharmed. Otherwise, the existence of a wikification called noinclude serves no purpose at all.

      But all this discussion is pointless...

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    • Yes, I misread the Hellblazer citation, but my point still stands that the Hell location page, which is s generic location page, has mixed continuity citations. And while a lot of Vertigo and New Earth continuity is in sync, a lot isn't, even within New Earth alone, but we don't start disregarding certain information just because we don't like it.

      I still have to acknowledge Blood of the Demon despite all it's errors and butchered characterisations.

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  • Hell-o!

    When creating personal galleries, it's rather convenient to make them in the userspace. Say, have you noticed the "See Also" section of your profile. There's a red link there for your gallery! How cool is that!?!?

    I guess you know what to do by now, or do I really need to redirect your attention?

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    • To be fair it's nearly 8am and I haven't slept. I'm just supposed to redirect the personal images to my existing gallery or just transfer the gallery to personal images? I tried the former but it remains Red linked for some reason.

      I give you consent to fiddle with my private page if I'm being obtuse. I just write synopses, man.

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    • Ah, the latter option it would seem. No need to gloat, no need to beam. Pinch me, for I must be dreamin' The Batman actu'lly helped the Demon!

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    • If only upvotes would work on message walls...

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  • Congrats on finishing Lobo Vol 2. Which series do you plan on working on next?

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  • Most of the characters that "die" in this issue show up alive later. I'm not sure I'd count this issue as a canon death for any of them.

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    • Fair enough. I had no knowledge of the others besides Black Condor which I added a specific note to. If you can tell me which ones appear after I'll add appropriate notes.

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    • Garryn Bek appears in Infinite Crisis #1
      Strata appears in REBELS Vol 2
      El Diablo appears in Infinite Crisis Special: Villains United #1
      Velvet Tiger appears in Wonder Woman Vol 2 #175
      Wild Dog appears in Infinite Crisis #7
      I can't confirm any appearances for Wotan or the Human Flea but since most of these other guys show up alive...it wouldn't surprise me if they're alive.
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    • Thanks. I'll check the appearances of those last two, see if they have anything after.

      I'll add notes to the others similar to Black Condor's.

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    • Done. Human Flea was the only character who never appeared again.

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