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  • Can you please, please, use capital letters in the proper places? That's at the start of sentences, not in the middle.

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    SforHope
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    23:06, February 13, 2018
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    • @Tupka, well, even if it is a "default block reason" (it really actually isn't, as the default would be leaving it blank, but because you gave that as the reason, I'm arguing against it, as that isn't the actual reason why I was blocked, therefore, technically speaking, it's a false block). I'm going to get hung up over the semantics, because you know as well as I do that when it comes to the block that I was false blocked. Many of my edits were corrected in the past, and I may not have improved, not because I was refusing to improve, as you are making it out to be, but rather because when I do the problems I'm not aware/don't think it is a problem (which I have mentioned previously in this thread), so it's not because I'm trying to spite you guys or piss you guys off or anything, it's simply because I'm not aware that it'll cause a problem or don't think it will, if that makes any sense. I even told you this time that if you tell me where the problems lie (since it seems to be more than just incorrect capitalization or punctuation, but also about formats and such) that I would be willing to personally go and fix it, but I need to know the issues so I can fix them rather than reverting the edit and just providing me with "grammar issues" or "wrong format" which gives me no information about which parts of it have bad grammar or which parts are formatted incorrectly or whatever (I also mention this previously in this thread). "you'll just end up making new mistakes" you are right about that, I'm Human, we just naturally make mistakes, as stated previously I'm not purposefully trying to make the mistakes, they just kinda happen, so saying that is really just a waste of energy typing it and a waste of space in the comment you sent. Again, if you had read my comments in this thread (seems like no one ever does in anything I do) I say tell me the mistakes and I'll go and fix them, in other words, as you put it, I would be the Janitor and already said I was willing to be, you would just be the people telling me where the mess is and what's wrong with the mess so I can properly Janitorize it, if that makes any sense.

      @Etrigan, I'm not aware of this pop culture quote, where is it from? you should have made it more clear that you were referencing something from pop culture (like putting "insert quote here" -whatever the quote happens to be from, year thing was released) or something like that, otherwise, as happened here, it can be construed as you making a threat. I still feel like you did actually threaten me, even if that wasn't the intent. Also, as I stated before, I'm not whining (or pissing and moaning as you put it the last time) I'm explaining reasonings and giving thoughts on stuff, not whining at all. Are you sure it wasn't because they feared for their lives? people will do crazy things because of fear. I'm not sure if you really are that awesome, especially if you can't tell the difference between whining and explaining, people in power believe themselves to be awesome when they actually arent (just look at every politician ever, no matter of political party), did someone hurt you as a child and now you feel like you have to essentially bully others and make others fear you so you can feel high and mighty because someone didn't make you feel that way? I feel like that's what happened, I've been nothing but kind and calm with you (I did imply that you don't know how to solve problems or talk to people properly, but that's evident from observation) while you've been calling me names and saying things in a pissy attitude and such, and I think there is something in the rules about name calling anyways, plus even if you didn't mean it as a threat I think actual law states that as long as I genuinely felt in fear for my safety or my life I could get the Police involved. In other words, you aren't so much a badass as you are a bully and someone high on power, hell you have to even reaffirm it for yourself by stating it in the comment, true badasses know they are badass and don't need to go around flaunting it or tell everyone they are a badass, you must not have a very high self-esteem if you have to tell everyone you are a badass and reaffirm it for yourself just to make yourself feel powerful and make you feel like you've won a discussion, what happened in your life to make you this way (not rhetorical, just fyi)? I listen to admin feedback, what I've been saying, if you actually paid attention, is essentially "thank you for the feedback now can you please help me with the feedback so I can go and utilize the feedback", in other words, I'm basically saying help me help you, if that makes any sense. I'm willing to use the feedback I've been given, but I don't have enough information to properly utilize it, which is why I ask for specifics and such in the comments and why I used the analogy of the power going out in your house in a previous comment.

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    • Oh put a sock in it. You disagreeing with one of several standard lines doesn't change your behavior. That's why you were blocked. A valid reason, whether you like it or not.

      This discussion is over.

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  • When you add a character profile picture, you don't need anything brackets or "File:Name". The template takes care of all of that automatically. Just add the full file name like - Character Name 01.jpg - and it'll display just fine.

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    • I know I don't have to. I literally just click the "add Image" button at the top, click the image I want, and click select on that image and it just shows up like that. plus it still makes the picture appear anyways so it's not like it's really hurting anything being there.

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    • It adds it to the category Character Image Correction Needed.

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    • well, maybe that category just doesn't need to exist... in actuality though why does it need correcting when it's not causing problems and still shows up just fine and everything? you give the add image button on there, so why wouldn't it go to use? maybe there could be a separate "add character image" button or something that adds images without having all the extra stuff if you guys are so worried about what in reality amounts out to be a non-issue.

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    • I had always wondered what that category was for.

      The "Add Photo" button is part of the standard toolbar. It adds the code needed to add an image in the body of a page. Infobox templates have code as a standard using different, faster code. It may not seem like much, but it's a performance issue, I'm told. Plus, it makes the source code cleaner.

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  • I see you're using the template 90% correct, it's just some minor hiccups, see here.

    • If you add a fully filled out template in the upload summary, you don't have to pick a license from the dropdown anymore.
    • There's no need for | ImageType2 = TV Screenshots. That's already covered by the | License = TV Screenshot.
    • The <!-- editor notes --> leave things out, so if you don't remove them from <!--{{F|Vigilante (Arrow)}}--> , that text doesn't display.
    • It's not a big disaster, but we prefer a link to a disambig in the {{f|}}. The proper page is already linked below, and the disambig looks cleaner in the text.
    • While a link to the original is appreciated if you take it from elsewhere on the net, use a link to the actual website rather than a long and ugly link to Google Images.

    Hope that helps. You can always check your upload log for other changes made to your images, and can always ask for further questions.

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    • it doesn't appear resolved.

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    • I just did another reread, please tell me if I'm missing something:

      You mainly respond to Arise Etrigan about not understanding eachother. If there's anything unresolved, it's between you two.

      As for the image names, the actual topic of the conversation, that has been resolved. We have a standard, or rather, something closely approaching a standard.

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  • The phrase "out of universe" means that the content is written from the standpoint of a real world viewer. On this site, we write everything in the context as if we're historians in the universe we're writing a page for.

    Specifically, the thing that was out of universe on the page for the Thinker was the sentence about "Flash, Season 4 Episode 1" or whatever. It's okay to source, but you do that behind the scenes with citations - <ref> [[The Flash (2014 TV Series) Episode: The Flash Reborn]] </ref> . However, I undid everything because it didn't really add anything to the page. We don't know enough about the Thinker yet to clutter the page with minor things that don't really say anything about him. Saying "he told the Mechanic they're moving forward with their plan" is such a minor detail for a season-wide villain, it's okay to wait until we have something of substance.

    And, affiliations are usually reserved for teams, not individuals.

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    Haroldrocks
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    02:45, October 16, 2017
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    • Haroldrocks wrote:

      Lordofninjas1 wrote: I wasn't told that that was "from my perspective" I was only told that it was out of universe or whatever.

      The first two sentences of this thread. If you didn't understand what I meant, that's fine, but I did address this issue.

      Regarding your point about conciseness, you're not looking at the big picture here. Byfield's example of a good history is meant as a general grasp of the character. Yes, it's longer, because it's meant to serve a broader idea of who the character is and what he's done, while simultaneously avoiding any insignificant actions like turning around and saying "I'm thinking". That is conciseness, getting overly specific is not.

      Now we could argue this for hours, but I really don't see the point. Again, we ask, even if you don't like our sitewide rules, that you respect them because they keep everything consistent. We never mind answering questions but debating us on well-established standards doesn't really lend itself to anything productive.

      actually, the first two sentences on the thread are "The phrase "out of universe" means that the content is written from the standpoint of a real world viewer. On this site, we write everything in the context as if we're historians in the universe we're writing a page for." while you are trying to claim that you mentioned it being from my perspective, you didn't really, you more generalized it (standpoint of a real world viewer) rather than specifically saying my perspective (standpoint of you the real world viewer or something like that), and technically speaking what I put on there isn't an opinion or view I have (aka my perspective), it may be from a general 3rd person (outside looking in) perspective, but not specificially my personal perspective, but it is the perspective of what occurred on the show, it wasn't like I was saying "I believe this happened/will happen because of this that and the other" I was saying "this is what happened because the show showed and told us that it happened", so it's technically wrong to say it was my own perspective, as it wasn't.

      while I'll admit that what he said and how he said it was better (covering your point about it being a good history) than mine and in a somewhat more general way than the 3rd person perspective (although both are eerily similar if you look at it, just basically changing the order of a few words and taking out that one sentence you said to/rewording it) it is not concise as it is long and can be shortened, according to dictionary.com the definition of concise is "expressing or covering much in few words; brief in form but comprehensive in scope; succinct; terse:". the way I said it in the most recent thing was using fewer words, briefly saying things, but still comprehensive enough to get a general idea of what is going on, where as he gets a bit more specific (which as you just said yourself isn't conciseness) and I showed how it could be made less specific and made more concise. also, I originally didn't even put the "I'm thinking" line in my thing (before this whole thread started) I simply said that he was just talking to her about the next step of the plan, I only mentioned the "I'm thinking" thing recently because Byfield mentioned it in his thing (and you are saying its insignificant and yet one of your friends that you are using as an example said it in there comment, must not be too insignificant then), so actually mine didn't contain the "insignificant actions" as you put it while his did, the only problem that was stated to have been with mine is that it mentioned the episode, he didn't really avoid them then did he?

      it's not that I don't like the rules, I'm fine with the rules as is and respect them and stuff, I'm simply trying to propose a potential tweak to the rules or whatever to better the site and the pages and whatever (as I mentioned previously), it's nothing about hating the rules, it's more about "ok, how do we keep the essence of the rule and whatever but still tweak it to make the site better and give the users more information and such and still work within consistency for other/future pages." let me put it this way, I'm trying to get you to upgrade from the Iphone 6 to the Iphone 7 while at the same time not asking you to get rid of your Iphone 6, if that makes sense. I'm not debating, I'm simply proposing a tweak, there is a difference. I also agree, trying to get the point across to you that I don't have anything against the rules and just trying to make the rules better for everyone could take hours and I don't really see the point in continuing to do it either when you missed that I was trying to do that the entire time, as well as trying to tweak it so that the site is more productive on content which makes the site better, attracts more users, gives more information, etc. like I know you guys want. basically, I'm on your guys side with this, I'm just saying I want to help you alter a couple things to make the site better for everyone.

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    • And we respectfully decline.

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  • Hello!

    Thank you for uploading new content to the DC Database project!

    We have lots of images in our database, 132,128 in fact, and in order to keep them organized we use a system of naming, categories and licensing added to each.

    1. Please review our Naming Conventions for Images. Images are categorized by name, so a descriptive name rather than a string of numbers is important.
      1. As a guide, look what other images in a character's gallery are called, and continue with the same name and number. If you upload a first image of a character, use "[Name] [Universe] 001". Do not use parentheses, or the full pagename. Ignore the Universe designation if it is a New Earth character.
      2. Issue covers should be given at least the title of the series, the volume and the number. A name similar to the issue is preferred: "Title Vol 1 1". Textless covers should be called "Title Vol 1 1 Textless". Files that do not indicate the issue number will be deleted.
    2. Images should be no less than 300px wide, unless no bigger image is available.
    3. Add the Image Template to the images you upload. This is mandatory. Fill it in as detailed here, or below.
    4. Selecting the proper license is vital to properly maintaining our images. Please choose the license which best describes the image you are uploading. The most commonly used are 'Comic Single Panel' and 'Comic Cover', respectively.
    5. Other fields that should be filled in: Issue, Subject1, Artist. Add Source if you've taken it from a different site. If you've taken it from a different site and don't know the issue, DO NOT UPLOAD IT.

    For a more in-depth guide, see Help:Image Template Hub. In addition, please take a moment to review our policies page and more specifically our image policy.

    If you have any questions, feel free to ask them in reply to this post and our admins will explain how you can improve for next time.

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    • “I don't have a problem with that, what one of my points were, had you read through my comment, was that there are different ways of saying the same thing (i.e. Arrow, Arrowverse, Flash Episode 6 Season 2, etc. are all different ways of saying "takes place in the Arrow Universe"), and that those different ways should likely be accepted as well.”

      I did read you comment and understood. You don’t understand that we don’t want other ways to say the same thing because we have a uniform designation.

      “...not very many people look at the source to begin with, for various reasons (whether it's because they think it's all the legal stuff on any website that no one reads, because they don't know it's there, etc.) which is where some/a lot of the confusion with stuff like that can lie.”

      That is not a problem with the system, that is a problem with the user. New users have to learn how the Database works, the Database doesn’t change to suit how they think it should be handled. Image names are not there for detailed information, that is what the detailed template is for. That is where specifics are.

      There will always be learning curves with something new. It is up to new users to learn and ask about the Database if they are confused about something.

      The main issue seems not to be with the Database practices, but you feel that certain fine points are excluded from the instruction guide. This is true, but you have since been instructed to name by Subject + Designated Universe + 00## + .jpg

      You could have correctly uploaded a lot of images in the time you spent condescending me just because you didn’t get your way. This is not some egregious oversight or injustice, this is how things are done.

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    • Arise Etrigan wrote: “I don't have a problem with that, what one of my points were, had you read through my comment, was that there are different ways of saying the same thing (i.e. Arrow, Arrowverse, Flash Episode 6 Season 2, etc. are all different ways of saying "takes place in the Arrow Universe"), and that those different ways should likely be accepted as well.”

      I did read you comment and understood. You don’t understand that we don’t want other ways to say the same thing because we have a uniform designation.

      “...not very many people look at the source to begin with, for various reasons (whether it's because they think it's all the legal stuff on any website that no one reads, because they don't know it's there, etc.) which is where some/a lot of the confusion with stuff like that can lie.”

      That is not a problem with the system, that is a problem with the user. New users have to learn how the Database works, the Database doesn’t change to suit how they think it should be handled. Image names are not there for detailed information, that is what the detailed template is for. That is where specifics are.

      There will always be learning curves with something new. It is up to new users to learn and ask about the Database if they are confused about something.

      The main issue seems not to be with the Database practices, but you feel that certain fine points are excluded from the instruction guide. This is true, but you have since been instructed to name by Subject + Designated Universe + 00## + .jpg

      You could have correctly uploaded a lot of images in the time you spent condescending me just because you didn’t get your way. This is not some egregious oversight or injustice, this is how things are done.

      if you did read my comment and understood it, you certainly didn't come across in that way, which is why I stated what I did. while you may not want other ways sometimes you just have to take them anyways, same with life sometimes you have to do something whether you want to or not, and I'm not saying you have to, all I'm saying is it would likely be better if it were that way, and don't you want to do things better in more beneficial ways? I know I do.

      you implied that I stated new users only, which is false, as my comments make no such distinction. I personally know and have seen non-new and even expert users of the site completely ignore that whole part for various reasons (some of which I continue to reiterate like them thinking its all the legal stuff no one reads on a website at all, as one example), also I wasn't asking for detailed information in the picture names, just a bit more information, I'm not asking to put all the information from those info box things in the picture name and even still mostly follow your prompt with my suggestions anyways, all I've been suggesting, which you seem to have missed even though you stated you didn't, is to give a bit more (basically like 3-6 more words worth) information to the (Arrow) part of it is all I still have the character name beginning part that you like, and while I didn't put the numbers at the end (mostly cause I wasn't sure what number you guys were on with stuff like that and didn't know it was really a manditory thing/thought you guys would give it a number or whatever) I can understand and have no issue with the numbers being at the end, I've just basically been asking to "quantify" the middle (Arrow) section a bit more, for lack of a better term, and am asking for this to somewhat simplify it for everyone, not just new users as you think I was only talking about.

      part of it, yes, is that I feel you are missing things from the instruction guides and such, but that isn't the entirety of the argument (which you would know if you read it like you stated you did). the rest of the argument has been stated many times before, I'm sure you can find it if you just looked a bit more. I also understand that I have since been told what the format is, I never stated that I haven't been informed of what it was, so that was technically a waste of typing space (or a waste of breath if you will) and technically haven't really done anything with it since recieving that information, so you can't get on me for that.

      I have not been condescending you, I simply stated that it seemed as though you didn't actually read what I put and was responding to what you thought I put, that's not exactly condescending, more of a "based on what you are saying it came across as though you didn't actually read it even though you stated you did" condescending is more name calling or putting down or the like, which I don't feel that I have done, at least not intentionally, I apologize if you feel condescended against, that wasn't the intent. I could have uploaded more images yes, but really there aren't very many more to upload right now, at least not that I can find that need images uploaded or anything, within a recent time frame that is. I never stated it was an egregious oversight or injustice and understand that that is how things are done, what I have stated is that maybe how things are done should be altered a bit and that the way things are done is still being followed, just not in the way you want it to be followed, if that makes any sense.

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  • Hello!

    Thank you for uploading new content to the DC Database project!

    We have lots of images in our database, 132,128 in fact, and in order to keep them organized we use a system of naming, categories and licensing added to each.

    1. Please review our Naming Conventions for Images. Images are categorized by name, so a descriptive name rather than a string of numbers is important.
      1. As a guide, look what other images in a character's gallery are called, and continue with the same name and number. If you upload a first image of a character, use "[Name] [Universe] 001". Do not use parentheses, or the full pagename. Ignore the Universe designation if it is a New Earth character.
      2. Issue covers should be given at least the title of the series, the volume and the number. A name similar to the issue is preferred: "Title Vol 1 1". Textless covers should be called "Title Vol 1 1 Textless". Files that do not indicate the issue number will be deleted.
    2. Images should be no less than 300px wide, unless no bigger image is available.
    3. Add the Image Template to the images you upload. This is mandatory. Fill it in as detailed here, or below.
    4. Selecting the proper license is vital to properly maintaining our images. Please choose the license which best describes the image you are uploading. The most commonly used are 'Comic Single Panel' and 'Comic Cover', respectively.
    5. Other fields that should be filled in: Issue, Subject1, Artist. Add Source if you've taken it from a different site. If you've taken it from a different site and don't know the issue, DO NOT UPLOAD IT.

    For a more in-depth guide, see Help:Image Template Hub. In addition, please take a moment to review our policies page and more specifically our image policy.

    If you have any questions, feel free to ask them in reply to this post and our admins will explain how you can improve for next time.

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