Some of them, yes. I re-discovered DC comic books in 1985 and had the good luck of picking up COIE, WHo´s Who, and Secret Origins, a little later - a great re-introduction. Been keeping tab on DC since then with an eye or two on the history.
I've seen a lot of scans of Who's Who. I take it some characters had their images updated. I saw one scan of Post-Crisis Luthor with a robotic hand, which I took to mean it was a later version of the book.
Post Crisis Luthor wasn't a super-villain, per se, just a power-hungry businessman with a severe hate-on for Superman. He took to wearing a Kryptonite ring to keep Supes away. He eventually lost his hand to Kryptonite radiation poisoning. He replaced it with a robot prosthesis. Eventually, he was diagnosed with terminal cancer, faked his death, passed his cloned self off as his own son & blew-up Metropolis. That covers early-to-mid 90s Luthor, not that you asked. :)
Yeah. I looked over his Post-Crisis awhile back. I was mostly referring to how he (I believe) had an entry in the 1987 update of Who's Who. I stumbled a scan of him with that mechanical hand which he only had in the comics for a couple years, from the aforementioned Kryptonite poisoning, but it had to be a slightly later edition. I was just surprised they would give him an entirely new picture that soon for such a minor change to his appearance.
The '87 Update is the first post-Crisis entry. His entry in the original Who's Who covered Earths One & Two. The entry with the mechanical hand is in the '88 Update and was more about fleshing out his background since when the '87 Update was published he'd only been around for a little over a year. The could've probably just stuck him in the appendix but they might've already had the artwork from the Who's Who in Superman series that never happened.
Ah, yes. I see the point in updating his bio within a year. I knew it had to be 1988 at the earliest. They of course went on to further expand his history in the "Unauthorized Biography" in 1989, which I believe is what further seperated him at the time from Earth-One Luthor by confirming he didn't grow up in Smallville much less cross paths with Clark as a kid.
Has anyone read "Zero Hour"? - It's not something I thought about before but I don't fully understand how both Earth-One and Earth-Two Batman since this was Post-Crisis. Are they the true Pre-Crisis Batmen, or is it similar to the first Post-Crisis Superboy created by Time Trapper...?
To be honest I can't tell it's Earth-One Batman just by looking; Artists pretty much reverted Post-Crisis Batman back to the old blue/grey batsuit after "Year One".
Maybe, maybe not. Some site cite these appearances as Zero Hour anomalies, not necessarily of Earth-One, or -Two. Same goes for the ambulatory Batgirl of the Barbara variety..
Zero Hour was a badly written hodgepodge mess in most respects (most characters are not identified by name, for example, [who needs new readers, anyway?] and the story makes no sense to me). It is also a sore point for me on a somewhat personal level: I was a pretty die-hard Legion fan which Zero Hour managed to screw up beyond recognition. Of course, part of the blame lies at Keith Giffen´s feet who did his chaotic best to tangle up the time-lines in the first place. But trust DC to so not un-tangle the mess they created to (supposedly) smooth out the crinkles left by the editorial powers-that-were.
Actually, I quite enjoyed the post-Final/Infinite Crisis/52 DCU. It had a lot of things going for it, like firm handles on the ever expanding Green Lantern mythology and on the post-52 universe. There was some sense of fun and playful acknowledgment of DC history.
And then came Flashpoint and the New 52, sometimes known as the DiDioverse. Oh well ....
It sure doesn't sound like Zero Hour helped fix those Post-Crisis plotholes, and in fact it sounds like there were less plotholes before Zero Hour. It does sound a bit odd the Hawkman and Aquaman of New Earth didn't officially appear until 1989, but I took it as a priority thing; Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman all got updates within a year of Crisis on Infinite Earths #12 likely because they were among the most popular and best selling characters; Hawkman and Aquaman, maybe not quite so much. Plus it may have went back and forth whether or not to just let the Earth-One versions stay.
Yeah; I just didn't get the whole appearance of Earth-Two Batman and Earth-One Batman. Earth-Two Batman died, and since during Crisis history was rewritten at the beginning of time, he never existed thus couldn't be pulled out of the past, and Earth-One Batman turned into New Earth Batman I thought; Dark Knight Returns Batman was in that crossover too; Not sure what his status was at the time; It did sort of seem like New Earth's Batman was heading for that future when Joker killed Jason Todd, but that was likely scrapped if they were ever considering it.
As for new readers; I was a new reader once like all of us, but yeah some new readers complain when it's unnecessary. To be honest I don't quite understand the point of Earth-2; The original still has appeal to me because it's set in a "bygone era" while Post Crisis Earth-2 is set in modern times. I sort of have to question the point.
I'm pleading ignorance on this one; I take it most Legion stories couldn't fit into the New Earth continuity because Superboy was so instrumental in their history well into the early 80's. John Byrne eliminated Superboy (something he apparently regretted later).
In contrast many JSA stories continued to be canon because the Earth-Two Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman weren't really that frequent since they all three had their ongoing titles.
Zero Hour was a decent read for the most part, but only if you'd been reading DC for at least 20 yrs. :D I consider all the "anomolies" to be one-shot characters. Anything they tried to "fix" from Crisis was pretty much screwed up even more. Especially Hawkman. The Legion they started from scratch & as much as I missed my originals, I grew to like the kids that took their place (until they got replaced, too). They eliminated 3/5ths of the Team Titans (why not a clean sweep?) just cuz DC never goes all-in when they can leave leave enuff of a mess to keep the fans scrathing their heads. Also, a major subplot, Power Girl giving birth, was COMPLETELY ignored with no explanation as soon as they could get the kid of the page. Artwork was nice & the spin-offs were great, for the most part. (Starman & Fate!!) Like any cross-over event, the tie-ins were hit-or-miss.
A bit of an odd question; But what was New Earth Batman's status at the time of Zero Hour, wasn't Azrael still Batman at the time? I'd probably have to read the story to fully understand but I just couldn't figure why the "Earth-One Batman" in that story wasn't the New Earth incarnation; Best I can figure he was either still recovering from when Bane broke his back, or he still hadn't reclaimed the mantle of Batman.
Good point about Hawkman; That's what they did with Man of Steel and Year One so saying "This story takes place a few years ago" sounds like a natural choice.
End of Knights End and the beginning of Zero Hour were the same month. The Batman in ZH was definitely Bruce Wayne, not Jean-Paul (who justthissecond left) or Dick Grayson (who was a temporary replacement while Bruce got his stuff together) mostly I think because you don't play your second stringers in the big game: i.e. new readers (or even non-Batman readers) that bought ZH cuz it was an event would expect to see Bruce Wayne under the cowl & you give the $$ what it wants.
The thing about Batman in Zero Hour bugs me more than it probably should. I've seen a few scans of pages and yeah I just don't see why that couldn't be Post-Crisis Bruce Wayne; Because, as I mentioned he has the blue/grey batsuit which Post-Crisis Batman was wearing at the time (I think); Despite Frank Miller giving him a black/grey more modern spin on the first batsuit, it looks like whoever took over duties after Year One reverted him back to the blue/grey batsuit; In the Arkham City game it's called the "70's Batsuit" (possibly for convenience). It seems like artists REALLY liked blue on Bats.
I remember Jean-Paul as Batman. I think did briefly wear Bruce's batsuit but quickly wore his own. I also seem to remember an issue of some series where Jean-Paul (in his own batsuit) got riddled with bullets and when it was done, all the blue paint had been chipped away revealing that metal was actually red... Am I imagining that; The memory sure feels real.
@McW & Supe:
While I appreciate some chatting about general developments and pivotal points in DC history, discussions about Batsuit color schemes and deciding which Who´s Who page is pre- or post-Crisis are far from my favorite topics regardless how interesting these may be for others. So, if it is not too much of a bother, please chase that subject elsewhere. Thanks for understanding.