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SforHope

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  • Hey, S.

    I had meant to send you a message yesterday, but all of my Sunday ended up dealing with a pesky troll on the wiki. Tups settled that once he awoke, so that's a plus. But I digress.

    We had a brief discussion on your recent board post about staying in touch and otherwise having a means to talk about our nerdy passions more directly outside of the wiki. I am not sure if you have an account for it, but the majority of users I interact with outside of the board use Instagram. Some of us have personal accounts and "comic fan" accounts (for those who prefer to keep things a little more private). Some users have created accounts specifically to stay social away from the confines of the board. It's a good app/service for that sort of thing, as you can enter and leave group chats, have one-on-one chats, mute chats, etc. Of course, I may be explaining all of this to someone who already has an account. Again, I digress.

    Point is, if you would like to reach out, please feel free to reach out to me via this Instagram account: nerdy_n8s_notes. I believe if you search for that, you will find me. The "profile image" is a logo of an open book and three 'N's. From there, I can let you know with whom all I am connected so that you can decide who all you would not mind talking to outside of the board.

    Thanks.

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    • N8THGR852 wrote: ...all of my Sunday ended up dealing with a pesky troll on the wiki.

      Yeah, I saw that and did a little damage control in the early stages, but as I witness now, it sort of blew up. Sorry you had to go through that, but also goes to show that sometimes you just have to bring the hammer down on some users.

      Anyways, I'm glad you contacted me to let me in on the way we can keep in touch outside of the wiki. As of right now, the only social media I actively manage is Twitter, mostly as the social outlet for my online persona. I have never used Instagram before or any other social media. I developed some sort of aversion to them for how time-consuming they can end up being.

      That said, I'm inclined to create one personal ig account, if only to keep in touch with you guys. I'm willing to set one up in a couple of days, as I'm dealing with some work related stuff right now and find myself kind of busy.

      In the meantime, it would be much appreciated if you'd provide me some insight as to what you consider are the pros and cons of having an Instagram account. Just so I know what to expect.

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    • I understand. I'm really busy with work stuff the next couple days as well. Tomorrow is press day for my paper, the day we have to finalize all files for the print issue (two-week cycle). Regarding the pros/cons, I can do my best.

      One perk of Instagram is that some comic creators post insider news pertaining to comics. Twitter shares this quality, but some of the news that hits IG is exclusively revealed on IG or at least "breaks" on IG. Now, I recognize that you do not keep up with newer comics as much as other users, unless I am mistaken. But even if you do not follow comic creators to learn of news and developments, it can be nice to keep up with the creators you enjoy—especially the artists, since they will post pictures of sketches they do and the like. Because Instagram is a picture (and video)-based platform, many comic artists who don't have Twitter accounts have active IG accounts, and even for the ones who do have Twitter accounts, many of them have extra content they only present on IG.

      One aspect of Instagram I consider a plus is that it does not really have an option to let someone share someone else's posts in the same vein as Twitter has retweets. I have mixed feelings about retweets. On one hand, it can sometimes lead me to seeing content that appeals to me that I would not have otherwise been able to see. On the other hand, it usually ends up leading me to seeing content that does not appeal to me that I would not have otherwise had to see. So I actually enjoy that IG allows me to have greater control over the content that I see, as my feed only has posts made by people I follow, no one else's.

      Just in general, I feel that Instagram is pretty low-key in many ways. For instance, Twitter is a fast-paced platform where some consumers are encouraged to post multiple times per day. The "courtesy" of IG is usually to post only once per day max; not so much as a rule, but as a commonly understood thing because everyone understands the tone of the platform. I feel like Twitter is designed for people who have accounts to produce content, but when it comes to IG, I never feel any pressure to be a producer. I can mostly be a consumer. I barely post at all, and that's perfectly fine. I can use IG primarily as a communications platform and that's fine.

      As a communications platform, Instagram is pretty solid. It is better for creating group chats than Twitter is. You can mute chats, clear conversations, etc. So you have a lot of control even in the direct messaging aspect of the app/service.

      Instagram is also more private than most other social media platforms. You can set your account to be private, and people cannot see a thing under your profile. Many people who use IG more as consumers than as producers tend to set their accounts to private, but it does not especially matter what you choose or why. If you wanted to grow a following, you could set your account to public and post using hashtags. Twitter has a hashtag program, too, but I feel that IG's is a little more targeted. Many people search for a hashtag and "follow" the hashtag rather than follow an account. That way, a person can see popular posts that have that hashtag. Again, none of this paragraph may matter to you, but I wanted to cover that base anyway.

      At the moment, the only con to Instagram that I can think of is that I don't know of any means there is to be low-key about not wanting to see someone's content. I know for some social media platforms, you can follow someone but select a setting that makes it so that you don't have to see that person's content in your feed. I don't think IG has that feature. So you either follow someone or you don't.

      If you have any further questions, let me know.

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    • Good morning, S. I hope you managed to get through your busy week as partially unscathed as I managed to get through mine. I thought I would check in to see if you had considered IG any further since I left my pros/cons list earlier this week. Either way, take care.

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    • I had originally planned to give it a try yesterday, but after the news about Denny hit early, I just couldn't function properly for the rest of the day.

      I should be able to do it tomorrow, or at the latest on Monday.

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  • I'm adding a little bit of Tim's history day by day, and I also modified what I wrote earlier trying to be more concise. The Death of the Family section is over, so I would like to have a green light about removing the incomplete banner. And also, if you have any remarks, I'm always open to getting better at doing this. Thanks

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    • I'll be honest with you, I have not read that series, so I can't judge in terms of content.

      That said, I do believe some paragraphs could be shortened by eliminating excessive or irrelevant details.

      Again, I'm not sure about the content of length of the series itself, but I think it could probably be shortened to half of it by keeping only the really important events.

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    • I re-read it to be coherent with the original material, and wrote everything right after. So I was probably too much detailed on it, thus my doubt about the trimming. I'll get it done as soon as possible, and thanks

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  • Does Batman have PTSD from his parents deaths? Or did this not actually fully traumatize him? Cus its a rather large part of his origin.

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    • Ok Ill remove it What Batman stories r N52 canon? Batman wasn't rebooted so tons of stuff appears to be canon but at the same time it might not have fully happened

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    • Truthfully, I'm not that well versed in New52 Bats. I read that sporadically because I couldn't stand the creative decisions taken and the direction it took.

      From what I know, most of the biggest storylines are still canon. Like Knightfall, Hush, Long Halloween, RIP, etc. But I'm not 100% sure of that. It's all very shady in terms of continuity, especially speaking of chronology. I simply stopped caring about it at that point.

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  • There is already an entry for Elvira. If you redirect to the Wikipedia article, what is the point?

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    • The point is to follow our own rules and get rid of that page.

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    • But the appearance of Elvira is official. She appears along Cain and Abel, characters from Earth-One/New Earth. When characters from two distinct publishers meet each other, the story takes part in a different universe, and this is not the case.

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    • Makes no difference. She is still a licensed character and we don't create pages for anything that is not owned by DC.

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  • Someone referred me to you as the resident expert on all Batman stories, and I was hoping you could help me locate a story that I vaguely remember reading when I was about five years old. It would have been around mid-70s.

    All I remember of the story is that it involved Batman willingly undergoing this procedure someone invented to break people psychologically to see if he could resist it. After he goes through the whole process, the creator of the process points to a door and says "That was just the first step. The REAL procedure is behind this door!" and Batman snaps and breaks down crying, although he may have been faking it. Anyway, does this sound at all familiar?

    Thanks in advance for your help.

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    • Hey there. Sorry for the absolutely late reply. Whoever sent you to me was right, I happen to know most about Batman around here, although as you might have noticed, I'm not active around anymore.

      Anyways, about the story you're looking for, given the description you've written, I am willing to bet that it comes from The Brave and the Bold #134 published in 1977. Although the details don't match exactly with your description.

      For instance, Batman didn't go willingly into the procedure. He was taken by force. Now, if he was actually fake-crying... well that's for you to find out once you reread the whole thing!!

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    • Thank you for the tip, I will check that out and report back as soon as possible!

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  • Hey SforHope! I'm Marcus, the Fandom Wiki Manager for DC Database. I am here to help the community by being a liaison to full-time Fandom staff. If you ever have a question or issue relating to the wiki, editing, etc., feel free contact me on my message wall. If you have any questions about my role, don't hesitate to ask!

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  • can you add a section for everyone who appeared in dc rebirth

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  • SforHope,

    I am attempting to assemble a reading order for myself for Jason Todd as Robin. According to the wiki, Earth-One's Jason Todd's last appearance is supposedly Batman Vol 1 400, with the cover date of October, 1986. The wiki also says that New Earth's Jason Todd's first appearance as Batman Vol 1 408. However, there are a number of issues where NE Jason is listed as being the Jason in the issue...but they were published between #400 and #408.

    I understand the other characters in these issues (such as #401-403) are also listed as New Earth characters, and I figure their being NE characters may be part of why Jason is listed as the NE version. But still, I need some help figuring out a proper reading order. Is it that #408 is the first chronological appearance because it's a flashback issue? It's not listed as flashback, but I am trying to figure this split out. I am somewhat confused here.

    Could you be of help? I am trying to figure out the appearance order between the cover dates of October, 1986, and October, 1987, for Jason Todd. I am trying to have the list transition between Earth-One and New Earth as seamlessly as possible.

    Thank you, N8

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    • The "crossover trend", as I like to call it, started in late 1981-early 1982. The first instance of this being Detective Comics #510 as the continuity of the story is further developed in Batman #344 and then it goes back to Detective Comics #511.

      This storytelling device was used until the very end of the Bronze Age (or Earth-One continuity) in 1986 and 90% of the time, it is mandatory that you read those stories alternating between Batman and Detective. Otherwise, it simply wouldn't make any sense.

      That's probably the biggest hurdle people find when going back to that era. Readers must alternate between series and for current lazy readership, it's too much of a hassle to make sense of the reading order. Which is a shame because the creative team of the time is phenomenal. Dick Giordano and Len Wein (editors); Gerry Conway and Doug Moench (writers); Don Newton and Gene Colan (artists)!! I mean, come on!

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    • Good to know. I am certainly willing to read the issues in alteration, but I wanted to clarify the necessity. I will keep all of this in mind when I am buying and reading these issues.

      Thanks a lot for all of this help. It has been a productive day.

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  • I know it's a bit of a stretch but instead of putting collected editions under a "Notes" subsection on issue pages we make a new subsection called Collections, and not just issues but also annuals‎, one shots‎, 80-page giant specials, digital comics‎, free comic books‎ and even silent issues.

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    • What kind of navboxes were you thinking of?

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    • Funnily enough, I put notes in the Notes section. I personally don’t see the point of listing what trades the issue was collected in, even with a link. If I want to find an issue I want to read I buy the issue. I’ll usually end up buying the whole run as well, so I’ll do a minimal amount of research on the internet to suss out my options.

      I prefer to add actual notes to Notes like editorial errors, such as those early issues where Alan Grant calls Harry Matthews “Harry Andrews” or how he changes the original spelling of Ran Va Daath. Pointing out when dead Lanterns mysteriously show up again or the constant inconsistencies with Lobo’s duribilty and healing qualities are also things I would want to read about in Notes, so that’s what I add.

      Trivia is for trivia. Recording interesting facts about characters, pointing out homages/pastiches, and explaining inside gags.

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  • Can you do me a solid?

    I’ve just bought some more trades and wanted to finally add Lnightfall as well, but I’m confused as the two omnibuses (Vol 2 and 3) I was looking at dont seem to have an obvious Vol 1. It’s probably out of production but even on eBay and another national online store I can’t discern which is the correct Vol 1 omnibus as the issues included seem to overlap. I’m hoping the information is just wrong but I don’t want to risk buying two trades only to find out the first just overlaps.

    Check out fishpond.co.nz and search “knightfall omnibus” and it comes up with only three options, but I would like your opinion if the first volume is indeed before the second two.

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    • I'm baffled as well. The Vol 1 Omnibus that shows up in fishpond apparently collects every book in Knightfall and all Prodigal as well. What I find strange is that, to my knowledge, DC has not published such omnibus. All collected editions of that storyline have always been in 3 volumes.

      These are the collections so far:

      Based on that, the results from fishpond for Vols 2 & 3 match those of the new edition collection and Vol 1 seems to be all 3 volumes of the Omnibus publication.

      I mean, if I were you, I'd go for the digital version instead; but since I know you like your comics on papyrus scrolls, I'd go for the first volume listed since it claims it has it all. I'd also double check their refund policy...

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    • Figured it out by cross checking the ISBN codes across theee sites. Looks like fishpond just has the wrong issue numbers listed.

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    • Have fun and do let me know what you think of the iconic storyline once you are done with it.

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