Talk: Blackhawk Squadron

Blackhawks' full names

Not all versions of the Blackhawks have full names given, so I think it's best not to use them on every version, at least not retroactively.

Just a rundown of the different versions: Quality Universe, Earth-Two/X, Earth-One, New Earth (Chaykin), Post-Zero Hour

• Andre: not given a full name until Blackhawk (Volume 2) #1. So technically, only New Earth and maybe Post-Zero Hour.
• Blackhawk: given the name Bart in Blackhawk #242. His Who's Who article puts some doubt on how true that is, and AbsCOIE says #242-250 is non-canon. Chaykin uses Janos Prohaska, as does Post-Zero Hour.
• Chop-Chop: was Chop-Chop until Blackhawk #203, when he was named Liu Huang (Earth-One). Then in Evanier's run (#251), he was Wu Cheng. Chaykin uses Weng Chan. Post-Zero Hour uses Wu Cheng again. AbsCOIE says #203 is non-canon, so our two articles need to be merged.
• Chuck: his father was called Mister Wilson in Blackhawk #17 (QU), so this is true for all versions except Chaykin, where he's Sirianni. Calling him "Charles" as we do is conjectural, as to my knowledge, his full name was never given.
• Hendrickson/sen: named Hans in Blackhawk #75 (QU), so arguably, Hans in all others, except Chaykin, where it's Ritter. Not sure on Post-ZH.
• Olaf: Bjornson is revealed in Blackhawk #117 (Earth-One).
• Stanislaus: see Andre; not named until Chaykin.

I think it's safest to use short version for all versions until the full name appears; versions first appearing can have the full name. Some would need renaming.

An additional problem is Zero Hour, which merged parts of the original team, the Evanier team and the Chaykin team into one... a team where Blackhawk is Janos, Chop-Chop is Wu Cheng, Zinda was active during WWII (which she never was originally), from 1940 to at least 1950. The others are also the original versions. And then, someone suddenly mentions the no longer existing "Captain Sirianni" in the pages of JSA.

I'm starting to think this needs to be the next installment in the "...is confusing" series. --Tupka²¹⁷ 13:08, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Just going over all Post-Zero Hour appearances...

• Batman Confidential #36-39: apart from mixing up the Killer Sharks, it confirms Wu Cheng as Chop-Chop and Janos as Blackhawk.
• Birds of Prey #75 uses Wu Cheng, reveals all of them are dead and Chop Chop was the last to die.
• The Brave and the Bold (Volume 3) #9 gives nationalities (apparently, Texas is a nationality now). Olaf is Swedish, Hendrickson is Dutch.
• The Brave and the Bold (Volume 3) #28 features a Chuck that has black hair like Sirianni, but is from Texas like Wilson.
• DC Comics Encyclopedia is basically a writeup of the Chaykin days, with no mention of anything else. It does, erroneously, list Hendrickson as Danish. --Tupka²¹⁷ 13:54, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Separate Earth-One page?

Currently, we have one page for QU, E-1 and New Earth. All the individual members do have individual pages. We probably need a page for QU, one for Earth-Two. The problem is Earth-One - it's Earth-One and Post-Zero Hour. New Earth is only Post-Crisis/Pre-Zero Hour. Would Earth-One need a separate page? --Tupka²¹⁷ 17:47, October 30, 2014 (UTC)

Dark Nights: Metal

Is the Blackhawk team we see in Dark Nights: Metal the same team as the one that appeared in the early stages of the New 52 or is it a completely different team? DalekSupreme13 (talk) 05:36, August 26, 2017 (UTC)

I'm going to go for a new one. A new one based on the Silver Age one. --Tupka²¹⁷ 08:02, August 26, 2017 (UTC)

Semantic Quibbles

1/ Page sez " team of ace pilots from countries occupied by Nazi Germany" but China wasn't occupied by N.G.
Chop Chop was, or became, an ace pilot, and even in the Quality Universe he was "on the team."
I'd like to tweak that sentence. Huck Foley (talk) 20:33, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
2/ Page also sez: " they flew modified Skyrockets in daring missions in Europe and, after the war, the Pacific," but they flew hella many missions in the Pacific during the war too, so I'd like to tweak that one also. Huck Foley (talk) 20:37, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

I wanted to say "Axis powers" but that didn't have a page. Close enough. Also, Chuck doesn't count for either but meh. Close enough. A change to "Axis powers" or "Nazi G and its allies" (though that's a loaded term there).

The rest can be rewritten as you suggested. --Tupka217 (talk) 20:43, 1 June 2021 (UTC)