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Why is this page protected?

Just to curtail the likely questions about why I've left this page protected...
The story lines are incomplete, and in order to maintain a façade of organization, the page must retain its framework. The majority of edits at this time - barring updates to the storylines (which I will be maintaining, for now) and additions to certain early sections - should be finding sources and examples for the abilities section. Any edits you feel must be made should be suggested here first (unless you happen to be one of the administrators, in which case, go do). And if you feel inclined to complain about the page being protected, here's the place to do it, though I wouldn't expect much to come of it, cough cough.

The key thing to remember here is that it's more important that the page is here for users to read than it is that it is here for you to edit. - Hatebunny (talk) 21:57, January 24, 2015 (UTC)


Could we change the picture for the sake of not having the same one as the Batman (Bruce Wayne) page's? Or, we could change the one on that page instead, maybe to the picture used on the disambig? --- Haroldrocks talk 22:43, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I was mid-way through changing the New Earth page's (the image was a PE image anyway). Open to suggestions for alternatives on either page, of course. - Hatebunny (talk) 22:50, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

A couple of things

Damian is listed as deceased in the infobox. Also, shouldn't his first appearance be Flashpoint (Volume 2) #5 because he speaks with Barry Allen in the Batcave in the last few pages of that issue. DrJohnnyDiablo (talk) 22:52, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

I fixed the Damian thing right away, but ... does anyone else want to weigh in on the Flashpoint thing? Sounds like Flash's first appearance should be Flashpoint #5, too, if that's the case. - Hatebunny (talk) 21:22, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
That makes sense, although I don't want it to. That was the creation of Prime Earth. --- Haroldrocks talk 21:27, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
Didn't that come out the same week as Justice League (Volume 2) #1? They're both equally valid. DC also lists Justice League #1 as the official appearance. - Billy Arrowsmith (Talk), 23:14, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
I distinctly remember JL 1 being the only thing that came out that week (not counting Vertigo and Johnny DC). --Tupka217 10:26, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

Injustice League

I was unclear. Is Batman considered a former member of the Injustice League, from when he worked with them in Forever Evil? That's always been confusing for me.GZilla311 (talk) 20:02, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

I'll have to go with what it says on that page. He's their ally. He's not really part of the team, he just works alongside them. --- Haroldrocks talk 20:08, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

Jack Shaw

Shouldn't Jack Shaw be added as an alias? Considering Arkham Manor Vol 1.GZilla311 (talk) 20:05, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

On it. --- Haroldrocks talk 20:08, January 25, 2015 (UTC)


This is one more thing that I am unsure of. Although Batman did evidently reject the Sinestro Ring, he used it in Forever Evil as well. Sinestro even recognized his skill. Is he to be considered a member of the Corps, since he was, for however short an amount of time?GZilla311 (talk) 20:14, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

No. No. No. He is not a fully inducted into the Corps. Same with NE Bats. --Tupka217 20:18, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
^ Couldn't have said it better myself. --- Haroldrocks talk 20:19, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
Got it. wasn't sure, since he actively uses a ring in this universe instead of only that rejection in NE. Thanks for clearing that up.GZilla311 (talk) 20:20, January 25, 2015 (UTC)


Batman served as a member of Justice League International. -- The Talk Goblin 20:27, January 25, 2015 (UTC)


I know it was a temporary thing, but he did get bat-like abilities (namely Sound Manipulation and blindness) under the effects of the Amazo Virus in Justice League (Volume 2) #38 and Justice League (Volume 2) #39. Should we put them as former powers?GZilla311 (talk) 20:25, February 18, 2015 (UTC)

Dear everyone: never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever this. - Hatebunny (talk) 20:28, February 18, 2015 (UTC)
Gzilla, what Hatebunny means is that we don't consider temporary superpowers worth mentioning on the page. It's just not notable to list in the Powers section because it is not a significant part of his character. By the same logic, when he uses a throwaway disguise like "John Smith" we don't include that as one of his aliases. - Billy Arrowsmith (Talk), 12:23, February 19, 2015 (UTC)


I don't want to move anything around without bringing it up for discussion first since Hatebunny put a lot of time organizing everything. But, could we move the "Early Adventures" section to be before the Earth 2 section? "Early Adventures" seems like stuff Batman did really early in his career, some of that section being stuff we know happened but never saw. It seems like that's just pretext to the character that shows his growing reputation, which lead to interacting with other heroes. --- Haroldrocks talk 00:51, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

That's a fair suggestion. I think the issue is that we don't know when in his career any of the stuff in there happened, but i don't feel like the fact that superman isn't part of the stories means they happened first. The key purpose of that section (for the time being) is to provide context to later sections. - Hatebunny (talk) 01:01, March 10, 2015 (UTC)
True. I guess I'm just hung up more on the section title. "Early Adventures" sounds like it should be pretext. Maybe "Building Reputation" or "Gaining Experience" or something? I don't know. I'm probably just being overly nitpicky anyway. Keeping it "Early Adventures" isn't the end of the world. --- Haroldrocks talk 01:17, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Request: Unprotect Article

With the events at the end of Endgame, and Zack Snyder's comments confirming the character's death, this clearly means endgame must have happened after Robin Rises, so the order of events in this article needs reshuffling, and the end of endgame needs to be included, things which can't be done if the article is protected from editing --Ohdear15 (talk) 19:34, April 29, 2015 (UTC)

I'm in no rush to unlock this page, if at all. I just came on after reading #40 to make sure both characters were locked but it seems you got to Joker's page before I did. A little tip that could've been put on your talk page but is still kind of relevant here, the pages don't need to be updated the second you read the comic. For the sake of spoilers, give it a bit. If the freakin' comic page hasn't even been created yet, you should probably hold off on doing any serious updating, like you did with Joker. The database, in general, is pretty fair game with spoilers, but it's not that hard to make it a considerate fair game by using a smidge of discretion.
You bring up some good points about rearranging that the admins (probably Hatebunny) are going to have to consider but unlocking the page is just going to spawn chaos right now. --- Haroldrocks talk 20:25, April 29, 2015 (UTC)

hi i have a question. So batman prime earth says his first appearance is justice league issue 1. However here on this site if you look up flashpoint issue 5 it says batman makes first appearance also in prime earth. so which is it? why is there 2 sites saying the same thing. is it flashpoint issue 5 or justice league issue 1 where batman makes a first appearance. regardless one should be changed cause it does not make sense to have 2 pages saying the same thing

Skills And Abilities

Just because I'm curious...how come the information on Batman's skills is so vague? Other pages have a little more in-depth information concerning people's skills. This caught my eye and I just want to satisfy my curiosity. State Trooper 902 (talk) 13:58, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

Because it's not sourced yet. We can't have specifics if it's not sourced. --Tupka217 14:01, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

Ok...I had a feeling that was the reason but I just wanted to be sure. Thanks! State Trooper 902 (talk) 17:09, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

Marital status is wrong

As of the past few issues of Batman, he as been dating Julie Madison, yet he is given the tag "Single" on the infobox. Also, why is the article still protected? Ohdear15 (talk) 23:40, November 24, 2015 (UTC)


Hey, I thought I could add Alfred's quote at the end of Endgame, but I can't with the page protected. Could I please do that? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Darth Thanoseid (talk • contribs).

You should post it here first to let other users see if it is a good quote. - S.S. (talk) 22:57, October 15, 2016 (UTC)

DC Rebirth

How come no further information has been added since the end of the Bloom arc? I'm unable to add anything due to the page being protected. Getitdunn1991 (talk) 09:37, January 5, 2017 (UTC)


Why isn't https://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Katherine_Kane_(Prime_Earth) listed as Batman's cousin, or https://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Jacob_Kane_(Prime_Earth) as being his uncle? Seriously, just unlock the page already, so his page can be as up-to-date as possible. The preceding unsigned comment was added by GenesisxxXX (talk • contribs).

Because Batman has a lot of relatives. And the precise relationship between Kate and Bruce is not explicitly established. --Tupka217 05:59, January 11, 2017 (UTC)

New 52 Characters Category

If this is Bruce Wayne from Prime Earth, shouldn't he have the "new 52 character category"? Xelloss.nakama (talk) 18:51, February 20, 2017 (UTC)

Yes. Because he appeared first in Flashpoint #5, which isn't within the parameters of New 52, the category doesn't add it automatically. Thanks for noticing and fixing that for other characters as well. --Tupka217 19:20, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
I cannot fix this character as it is not editable as the others... could some moderator add it? Also, I am adding the category to all Prime Earth CharactersXelloss.nakama (talk) 15:38, February 21, 2017 (UTC)
Stupid me. I completely forgot you couldn't edit this page as well. --Tupka217 15:42, February 21, 2017 (UTC)

Middle name

Batman (Volume 3) #20 confirms his middle name is Thomas. Someone should add that. - Ver-mont (talk) 16:38, April 5, 2017 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks. --- Haroldrocks talk 17:19, April 5, 2017 (UTC)


Can someone add {{Stick Fighting}}, {{Swordsmanship}}, and {{Weaponry}} to this page? He trains Dick with a staff in Nightwing Vol 3 0. I know for a fact he uses a sword at one point, but can't quite find a ref. I'll keep looking, but does anyone else happen to know a time he's used one? --Sromero78 (talk) 06:55, April 13, 2017 (UTC)

Page Image

Hey, so I've noticed that the page image for this page is Batman in his New 52 suit, he hasn't worn that suit for a long while now so I think the image should be changed to his current costume, aka the one with the grey cloth suit and the trunks.--23dilsherd (talk) 12:41, August 8, 2019 (UTC)


Did Batman's exposure to Dionesium really give him a permanent healing factor? I don't think so. SuperFan95 (talk) 08:15, December 22, 2019 (UTC)

I have been wondering that as well. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mrstoflet1284 (talk • contribs).


Batman should wear his current costume, the one with the over underwear. Batman is more famous in his overunderwear costume and it is the one that is more recent MeudyBC26 (talk) 21:24, March 19, 2020 (UTC)MeudyBC26

Discussing it after you've already changed it isn't going to win you any brownie points.--Tupka217 21:39, March 19, 2020 (UTC)

I think we should change the main image to some thing like this https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/File:Batman_Rebirth_Vol_1_1_Textless.jpg The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jennaharper (talk • contribs).

Definitely not. Too close up, doesn't give a good look at the costume. --- Haroldrocks talk 22:14, September 19, 2020 (UTC)

Bruce Wayne (Prime Earth )|Batman (Bruce Wayne

I think we should change the main image and replace with a later image from a later Batman comic book would you agree your fan

Here are the Images [removed]

The Images are here you see you choose one of them or more or neither would you agree your choice good luck friend I'm giving you 24 hours to think which Image will you use the replace the main Image on Bruce Wayne (Prime Earth) If you can't do it I'll do it myself! The preceding unsigned comment was added by Richhdhxh (talk • contribs).

That's not how image discussions work. If you change the picture without approval, it will be reverted. --- Haroldrocks talk 03:41, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Can you help me Approve does this look good can you help put it as the new main image for Bruce Wayne (Prime Earth) You agreed this would be the current main image we Approved Can it be approval this Image I hope so If this new main image of Batman is an approval then I thank you thank you for your approval your friend The preceding unsigned comment was added by Richhdhxh (talk • contribs).

Stop making new sections. And sign your comments with " --~~~~ ". I did not say anything about my approval. I wouldn't mind updating the picture but I don't think any of your suggestions are the one to go with. I also think it should be a wider discussion. --- Haroldrocks talk 04:35, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

I text a user and she will know The preceding unsigned comment was added by Richhdhxh (talk • contribs).

Only administrators can change images. No point in texting any user. MatteJohnny (talk) 07:00, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

I have talked to all of the administrators on this website and we agreed to change the main image of Bruce Wayne (Prime Earth) and the put this as the new main image your welcome yournew friend. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crippppdjdh (talk • contribs).

Image discussions happen on this Talk page, not anywhere else. My patience with you is being tested. --- Haroldrocks talk 00:38, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Main image of Bruce Wayne (Prime Earth)

Dear users I talked to Haroldrocks and he is going to decide if you should change the main image or not I mean that image is getting to old and it's not new 52 anymore it's after Rebirth I think the new image should be a newer image from Batman Vol 3 you can let me know if you will edit it or not mean time thank you this would be a Christmas gift for everyone 😊😊😊

Take a hint already. --Tupka217 11:22, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Shouldn't he be considered Formerly Deceased?

Not only did he apparently die in Batman: Endgame (a story I haven't read as of yet so take that with a grain of salt), but he died in between the end of Scott Snyder's Justice League run and Death Metal. Why isn't he considered Formerly Deceased? Thermoxin (talk) 16:06, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes, he has died two times now. First during Endgame where the Dionesium revived him. Later, in Death Metal. MatteJohnny (talk) 17:04, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Religion Category

I saw that the category "Christians" was added to this page. As I recall, the last time Bruce's religion was addressed he was only raised Christian, but became irreligious in adulthood. Does anyone have a source for him being a Christian in current continuity?Kpengie (Message Wall) 23:05, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Even that might need a source, so let's remove it for now. --Tupka217 (talk) 23:29, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
I remember that Batman #53 at least implied (If not outright stated) that Batman didn't believe in any "God" per se, but that he more just believed in Batman, and what Batman could mean to others.Kpengie (Message Wall) 01:07, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
That's the jury scene? I thought that was more an act. --Tupka217 (talk) 04:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
It's been a while since I read it, but it seemed to imply Bruce didn't really believe in a God in adulthood, but that his father was Christian and raised him as such in his early life. Could be a bit more open to interpretation though, as it's been a while since I read it. Kpengie (Message Wall) 17:41, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Also been a while, but to me that seemed more like a public "Bruce Wayne" persona he played, not necessarily 100% real. --Tupka217 (talk) 17:50, 3 May 2021 (UTC)


Does Dionesium Exposure need to be listed as a power? I feel like it's not fitting to do so since its already stated under Peak Human Condition, plus it's really not a power in the first place. Just wanted to get other opinions on this. -π–˜π–—π–”π–’π–Šπ–—π–”πŸ•πŸ– (talk) 09:59, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Image discussion

Though I'll veto every suggestion the clueless vandal has brought up, I do understand people would want a new image.

Some suggestions:

In terms of prominence in the last decade, I'd say it's probably been Capullo, Daniel, JRJR and Finch, more than Jim Lee we have now. Unfortunately, Capullo's style hasn't given us many usable covers, and the one there is is, by now, pretty old. Finch likes to draw other people in it and the only really usable one is very recent. The Romita one is iconic, but maybe too much black.

These are my suggestions for these artists. If you have any others, do give them here. But the most important thing is the artist, IMO. Don't do flashy pin-up variants because that's not what they look like. --Tupka217 (talk) 11:26, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

I vote for Finch's. Danter7 (talk) 15:48, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
I like the Tony Daniel cover. The Capullo one isn't a bad choice either, but I prefer Daniel's. -π–˜π–—π–”π–’π–Šπ–—π–”πŸ•πŸ– (talk) 08:35, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
I like the Daniel cover, and it's pretty much the best Daniel cover. The main downside is we've had a very persistent vandal who tried to push that several images, including that image specifically so I don't want them to get their way. I'm not above vetoing it out of spite. --Tupka217 (talk) 09:29, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
Yeah it's a shame they had to ruin it, that was definitely my first choice. The only other two I could find that could be good are this Fabok cover and another Daniel cover. I like the Fabok one a lot and feel he's another artist who's been pretty prominent with Batman. -π–˜π–—π–”π–’π–Šπ–—π–”πŸ•πŸ– (talk) 21:37, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
I found a more recent cover from Daniel that could make a good main pic. Any thoughts? -π–˜π–—π–”π–’π–Šπ–—π–”πŸ•πŸ– (talk) 21:53, 21 September 2021 (UTC)


Jarro is clearly one of Bruce's kids, despite this he is not listed among the other relatives. The preceding unsigned comment was added by GhostSprites (talk • contribs).

Image discussion

This cover has come out since the last image discussion a couple years back and I think it might make a better main image than the current, since it's not as shadowy and shows him more direct on as a full body shot. Also its a Fabok cover, who has been a very prominent batman artist in the last decade. Does anyone have thoughts on this? -π–˜π–—π–”π–’π–Šπ–—π–”πŸ•πŸ– (talk) 19:10, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Fine by me, but I'll wait for more people to chime in. --Tupka217 (talk) 19:28, 12 October 2023 (UTC)