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Supporting cast

Shouldn't all his supporting cast members from Hellblazer be (Vertigo Universe) as well? --Tupka217 11:10, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not really sure about this. The main concern is that there is overlap between some of the demon characters up until Vertigo actually existed, and then it's pretty much characters exclusive to the book, besides Swamp Thing, Phantom Stranger and Zatanna appearances here and there. The way I think it is best laid out for Constantine is that the "Vertigo Universe" version is the one who first appeared in Swamp Thing, and continues through to issue 300 of Hellblazer. Then the New Earth version overlaps with Swamp Thing again pre-vertigo, disappears, and then returns during Brightest Day. Then the Prime Earth version shows up in the New 52. My main issue is this, though: If John Constantine and all of his background Hellblazer characters are put at Vertigo Universe, should the Endless/Sandman characters also be moved there? - Hatebunny (talk) 01:12, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Family

I hate these ginormous lists of uncles, aunts, cousins, etc. This needs a family tree badly. --Tupka217 18:57, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I haven't read far enough to get more than his sister, niece, father, and the fact that Lady Constantine is an ancestor. - Hatebunny (talk) 19:20, November 16, 2014 (UTC)
We're going to have to polish up our HB stuff anyway, now that Constantine uses so much of it. --Tupka217 19:25, November 16, 2014 (UTC)
The Vertigo Secret Files issue has some good summary of his family, but the majority of them are simply "ancestors", no relation established. And in Wayne Family fashion, they're all over the place. Devon, Ireland, Ukraine... And the eldest, Kon-Sten-Tyn, killed his two sons, who did not have children themselves. So how exactly he fits... unclear. --Tupka217 17:32, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

Listed family

Here's a breakdown by era. Obviously, they can't all be direct ancestors.

Direct:

In tree-form:

note: I have to think of a way to incorporate John's three kids with Rosacarnis.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Bill
(1880s-1916)
 
Alice
(died 1920s)
 
Charles
(1880s-after 1920)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Thomas
(1910s-1990)
 
Mary
(1923-1953)
 
Roy
 
Jean
 
Jack
 
Brother [1]
 
Brother [1]
 
Brother [1]
 
Dolly
 
Harry
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Cheryl
(1946-2005)
 
Tony Masters
(died 2005)
 
Abby Holland
 
John
(born 1953)
 
Epiphany Greaves
 
Golden Boy
(1953-1953)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Gemma
(born 1978)
 
 
 
 
 
Tefe
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  1. In Hellblazer #28, Thomas is given said to have 6 brothers, and in Hellblazer #100, Dolly is identified as his sister. No order of birth is given

Indirect, unclear:

  • Pyotr Konstantin born 1630 Trenchcoat Brigade #3
  • Harry Constantine living 1649
  • Kon-sten-tyn somewhere between 4th and 8th Century
  • Constantine 6th century Destiny: A Chronicle of Deaths Foretold
  • Jack Constantine I living mid 16th Century Sandman #13
  • Hugh Constantine living 1741 Papa Midnite
  • Lord George Constantine died mid-18th Century Sandman 1730
  • Lady Harriet Constantine died mid-18th Century
  • Lady Johanna Constantine living 1785, 1794 and some time after
  • "Mouse" "died" 1794
  • James Constantine alive 1797 104
  • Conrad Constantine early 19th century Swamp Thing 114

I'll remove the latter half from the list. --Tupka217 22:41, December 1, 2014 (UTC)

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