Retcons[]
I apologize if I broke protocol, but maintaining actively incorrect and outdated information on the page is silly at best. The current iteration of Plastic Man on Prime Earth is textually cited as a member of the All-Star Squadron. You know, during World War 2?
He clearly did not originate during Forever Evil, and it's been abundantly clear that wasn't so since his original reintroduction during Metal (and the subsequent books), given that he had been in his 'egg' form for years and had also had powers when he fathered his now-teenage son.
We don't have to merge Prime Earth and New Earths pages, but if we're not going to, at the very least when New 52 information becomes clearly outdated, it should be shunted off to an Earth-52 page. After all, that's a multiverse world that exists specifically to preserve New 52 stories. Leaving it on the page un-disclaimered in any way is misleading at best.
Ømn1 (talk) 17:13, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- I could've explained - and this was my fault - that we don't just erase retconned information because it's still information that was true at some point. We amend retconned information to say that it was changed. At the moment, we're not moving pages around for Earth-52, so that's not an option. Instead what the page needs is a subsection like we did for Kon-El (Prime Earth) or Basil Karlo (Prime Earth). (Specifically Clayface in this case.) "Original Origin" / "New Origin". The information remains on the page, but with the context that it was retconned.
- I'll create the subsections if you would like to write his new origin in the appropriate area, but please don't remove retconned histories - especially without replacing it with something new, our history sections are hard enough to keep populated. --Haroldrocks (talk) 20:43, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
Divorced?[]
Since he’s said in the past that he comes from a Catholic background, did they get divorced or was their marriage annulled? And it’s more than a matter of semantics, the latter implies that in some senses Patrick was never Luke’s father because the marriage never was. Eschiss1 (talk) 00:24, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Just because he's got an Irish surname doesn't mean he's a devout by the book Catholic. And tons of regular Catholics divorce.
- Parentage is not tied to marriage. Having a child retroactively born out of wedlock does not erase a father's name from the birth certificate.
- This is wasted time anyway as they're explicitly discussing child support payments when Angel and Luke first appear. --Tupka217 (talk) 17:01, 27 March 2023 (UTC)