Okay, so a little over a year ago, I mentioned that I thought darkness/shadow manipulation should be listed as one of Raven's(New Earth) powers. At the time, several members informed me that what I and others typically mistake for shadows is actually Raven's soul-self. I accepted that, since after looking into it, it sounded reasonable. However, just today I notice on this page that she now has darkness manipulation. On DC's new official site, shadow manipulation is also included as one of her powers. So, as someone who doesn't read New 52 Teen Titans, I'm just wondering if she actually does this now?
Hm, that's strange, considering that the descriptions we have for both "Soul Self" and "Darkness Manipulation" both mention a giant raven respectively. I don't read the comics but, I would think, since this Raven is much darker than her past self, that she would have the demonic power over shadows while her New Earth version simply had a psychic power that just-so-happened to look like shadows. --- Haroldrockstalk 11:02, March 4, 2014 (UTC)
Article name?[]
Isn't her name Rachel Roth, as mentioned in the page itself? Therefore, shouldn't we change the name of this page to "Rachel Roth (Prime Earth)"?GZilla311 (talk) 17:14, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
I haven't read much of the New52 Teen Titans, but Here's the impression I got from reading Raven #1 last week:
1. Her birth name, the name her mother gave her, is Rachel. (Just Rachel, not Rachel Roth, because they don't have last names in Azarath.)
2. At some point, Trigon changed her name to Raven. Raven is not a code name, it's her real name now, because that's how Trigon rolls.
3. Now that she is on Earth and retired from super-heroing (at the moment), she is going by the name Rachel Roth. If that is her legal name in the USA or not, who knows?
So, if all that is correct (please correct me if it is not), I'd say:
1. The page name should be Rachel
2. RealName should be Rachel Roth or Raven, depending on how legal Rachel Roth is
Does that make sense? Shadzane 💀 (talk) 19:11, September 26, 2016 (UTC)
I just read Raven #1 more closely, and it says Raven is only able to attend school in San Francisco because Power Girl hacked into their systems and inserted her. So it appears that Raven has no official presence in the USA, so her Rachel Roth name has no legal standing and her real name is still Raven. Shadzane 💀 (talk) 05:03, September 30, 2016 (UTC)
Image[]
Does anyone object if I change the image to the one below? This is because the current image features her pre-Rebirth costume from her fiirst solo series, which is substantially different to her current outfit (she also looks slightly older in her current artwork, which I think is reflected in the image as well).Ohdear15 (talk) 20:35, June 21, 2018 (UTC)
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I agree that we should be showcasing her new costume, but I think this image does it better. Your image has too many other people in it, distracting from Raven (IMHO). Shadzane 💀 (talk) 20:42, June 21, 2018 (UTC)
Yeah that's fair, I just didn't really like that cover because I didn't really think that her face looked much like it actually does in the issues, but maybe that's just me. Ohdear15 (talk) 20:44, June 21, 2018 (UTC)
Image, Height, Weight[]
I think we should change the image because the picture contains Raven's old costume, and she is a teenager there.
In the current storyline, Raven is in her early twenties and there is a slight change in her costume.
I think will fit better.
Also, I've found that Raven's height is 5'5" and 110 lbs. --The preceding unsigned comment was added byDC_Fan_Forever_27 (talk • contribs).
Citation needed --Tupka217 (talk) 11:32, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Waiting. --Tupka217 (talk) 15:27, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
picture change[]
The picture Raven has now is no offense, very bland, boring, tomato tomato. There are so many more options (better options) for a picture with her that compliments her appearance and powers that doesn't just make it seem like mediocre fanart that someone found on Tumblr
I thought I could just edit it to add them because I forgot to, so here I am making another one for suggestions, sorry for the inconvenience.The preceding unsigned comment was added byAlijahDoesThings (talk • contribs).
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I'm going to say no just for how you describe the current image. And because none of the suggested alternatives are better. Dark on dark, upside down, half a face and a variant. Main pics are about more than some newcomer's personal taste. --Tupka217 (talk) 19:51, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
#4 is a nice image, but it doesn't match the costume in the other three. Is that even her current costume? (I'm not up-to-date on Titans, so I don't know) -- SuperFan24K (talk) 15:05, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Looks decent, I'm okay with using that when the issue comes out. --Tupka217 (talk) 06:45, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
Image Change[]
I'd like to suggest we use Tales of the Titans Vol 1 2 Textless.jpg as her infobox image; it's a good look at both her current costume by the artist for the main book's interiors, but also gives a good sense of history. Ømn1 (talk) 11:23, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Ohdear15 (talk) 20:35, June 21, 2018 (UTC)
