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:::I tend to agree that it's more likely a mistake than anything else. [[User:Kyletheobald|Kyletheobald]] ([[User talk:Kyletheobald|talk]]) 04:39, July 3, 2020 (UTC)
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:::: If you had to dismiss it from an OOU perspective I would call it a change of heart, rather than a mistake considering Kirby changed the sex himself in the same series. In-universe, “transgender” is not how I would label Teekl. That’s is a very specific thing. I labeled it “gender fluid” initially. While Teekl’s fluidity is magical, there are real animals that can change their biological sex in nature. Of course, if there is an established biological term for this ability it would be a better fit than gender fluid, which takes on a different meaning when referring to humans. There will probably never be any “new developments” on this topic now that NE is kaput. We only have what Kirby established. If the decision is to explain away Kirby’s ‘inconsistency’ for the sake of convenience then Teekl should be labelled as female, which I’m fine with since Morrison’s Seven Soldiers contradicts Klarion and Teekl’s history in The Demon Vol 3 and is best ignored. [[User:Arise Etrigan|Arise Etrigan]] ([[User talk:Arise Etrigan|talk]]) 09:07, July 3, 2020 (UTC)

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Gender

Is there a source that Teekl is male? Teekl generally transforms into a feminine monster, and in Sins of Youth: Secret and Deadboy #1, is referred to as a she. --Tupka217 12:24, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Klarion consistently uses female pronouns in The Demon Vol 3 also. She even transforms into a humanoid cat-woman. Arise Etrigan (talk) 11:18, May 9, 2016 (UTC) Arise Etrigan

Okay, Kirby has decided to make life difficult for us. The Demon #7 first refers to Teekl as male. He continues to be male until The Demon #15 when Teekl first takes anthropomorphic form of a woman and Klarion accordingly refers to Teekl with female pronouns. So when Morrison uses a male teekl in Seven Soldiers and Grant uses a femaile Teekl in The Demon Vol 3, they are technically both correct. Is there a category for gender fluidity?
Arise Etrigan (talk) 01:31, October 28, 2016 (UTC)
Bringing this back up now that it's been changed. Has there been any development? Because it seems way more likely this is just inconsistency between writers rather than something intentional. Calling Teekl transgender seems kinda assume-y just to make sense of writing errors.
If anything, as ridiculous as it is to discuss the gender identity of a fictional magical cat, I feel like non-binary is at least a more general category, because then it just implies Teekl is not confined to the typical gender spectrum. --- Haroldrocks talk 03:22, July 3, 2020 (UTC)
I tend to agree that it's more likely a mistake than anything else. Kyletheobald (talk) 04:39, July 3, 2020 (UTC)
If you had to dismiss it from an OOU perspective I would call it a change of heart, rather than a mistake considering Kirby changed the sex himself in the same series. In-universe, “transgender” is not how I would label Teekl. That’s is a very specific thing. I labeled it “gender fluid” initially. While Teekl’s fluidity is magical, there are real animals that can change their biological sex in nature. Of course, if there is an established biological term for this ability it would be a better fit than gender fluid, which takes on a different meaning when referring to humans. There will probably never be any “new developments” on this topic now that NE is kaput. We only have what Kirby established. If the decision is to explain away Kirby’s ‘inconsistency’ for the sake of convenience then Teekl should be labelled as female, which I’m fine with since Morrison’s Seven Soldiers contradicts Klarion and Teekl’s history in The Demon Vol 3 and is best ignored. Arise Etrigan (talk) 09:07, July 3, 2020 (UTC)
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