Rename to "Connective Energy"?[]
We should rename the page for "Connective Energy" from Dark Nights: Death Metal Vol 1. It is shorter than "The Seven Forces of the Universe".
Elizio33 (talk) 06:54, June 17, 2020 (UTC)
- It is shorter, and slightly more accurate in context, but it's not as descriptive, especially to the unfamiliar reader, coming at it from outside the context. If I'm looking up a philosophical abstraction, I have a better chance of finding it under "Plato's Republic" than under "The Good." If I'm looking for a law of physics, I have a better chance of finding it under "Laws of Thermodynamics" than under "Entropy." Stoop Davy Dave (talk) 11:10, June 17, 2020 (UTC)
- I agree with Dave. I am far more familiar with the 'Seven Energies' or 'Seven Forces' aspect of Universal cohesion. The existing title is fairly long, by wiki standards, and could be shortened to perhaps "Seven Universal Forces" or even "Universal Forces" since there are technically fourteen of them between the two expressions of the PE Multiverse. I think that "Universal" is the most important word and should remain in the title, and that "Connective Energy" is just not descriptive of the concept as it has been laid out previously in Snyder's run.Roscoe Coaltrane (talk) 01:17, June 20, 2020 (UTC)
Okay then. "Universal Forces" should be fine as long as the name of the page is shorten because "The Seven Forces of the Universe" is too long for my taste. Elizio33 (talk) 04:24, June 21, 2020 (UTC)
Would it be worth adding 'intrinsic field' to the alternate name section of the connective energy, since that's what Manhattan's energy is called in the original Watchmen comic? Ømn1 (talk) 00:35, July 20, 2020 (UTC)
Okay. Last attempt to rename that page. In Dark Nights: Death Metal #3, The Flash refers the Connective Energy as the Anti-Crisis Energy. The same name was mentinned by the Batman Who Laughs in Dark Nights: Death Metal #1. So, we could rename that page Anti-Crisis Energy. Elizio33 (talk) 16:24, August 20, 2020 (UTC)
- Flash never refers to Anti-Crisis Energy as Connective Energy in Dark Nights: Death Metal #3. He simply says Anti-Crisis Energy and nothing else in relation. Wally West in the first issue refers to the positive Connective forces and the negative forces which he calls Crisis Energy. The Connective Energy are thus sort of anti-crisis energy. This is where the Batman Who Laughs took to calling it Anti-Crisis energy, to separate it from the Crisis Energy. Later Barry does too.
- But the two types of Energy together are always referred as Seven, not 14. The opposites are taken as one. There's logic behind splitting them off, but you're mistaken about Connective Enrgy being the Seven Forces. In fact Perpetua used Crisis Energy to create the Multiverse. MatteJohnny (talk) 18:06, August 20, 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, i know that Perpetua used the Crisis Energy to create the Multiverse instead of the Connective Energies. I just wanted to know if we should rename the page as Anti-Crisis Energy but i have my answer. Elizio33 (talk) 18:59, August 20, 2020 (UTC)
Hello, I find this image more appropriate and much more representative than the current image. This image covers both the harmonious and the hidden forces, whereas the current coverage only covers the hidden forces. Elizio33 (talk) 03:20, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Hypothetical Connections[]
Have there been any confirmation with any connections between The Seven Forces of the Universe and other forces? For example:
- Speed Force/Negative Speed Force and Still Force/Negative Still Force
- Life Force and Death Force
- The Elemental "Life Forces": The Divided, The Green, The Grey, The Red, The Clear, The White, The Hot, The Melt, The Metal, The Black
- The Life Equation/Anti-Life Equation and Death Equation/Anti-Death Equation
- Sphere of the Gods and Void Wind
- Collective Unconscious and Black Apple
If there haven't, that's ok. But should any appear, feel free to inform me and others with any references.
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