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  • I do not know if anyone ever asked this, or if I'm asking in the right place, but would not it be more appropriate to replace the word Villains by Antagonists in the comic book entries? So we would avoid weird things like seeing the Titans as "villains" as here: https://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Titans_Vol_3_32

    What do you guys think about that?

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    • I agree, there are several other comics where the antagonist is a hero but are listed under villains because they oppose the featuered character who is a villian, an example is most of the issues of Joker Vol 1.

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    • I think Marvel already has that, right? I've always just used it. Villain cameos (like in Arkham cells or smth) should be under Other. Also, all the other section headers are OOU. I'm not against it, except....

      It's going to be a MAJOR pain to bot. AWB cannot generate a list of over 25.000 pages, and they hit that limit on comic templates alone. That's not counting ep, game and movie pages. And as there's no way of scratching pages off the list after they've done, you can't shrink that list. Add to that, AWB has a 5000 edit maximum before you have to reset everything.

      Maybe it's doable with database scanner, repeatedly, chipping away a chunk every time, but that takes months as you can't request fresh database dumps that often.

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    • To generate the AWB list, you can start at Category:Comics_0-9 and do category recursive. It's a little more cumbersome but it should get the job done. I don't know what you mean about having to reset after 5,000 edits--I have never experienced that.

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    • In the bot tab, you set the max number of edits. It's set standard to 500 I think, but can be changed up to 5000. It's a safety feature I think, to prevent a bot from straining the servers.

      That Comics 0-9 trick might work, I had not thought of that. Probably because I hate those categories and wouldn't mind seeing them gone.

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    • Hm. Well, you can always have multiple instances of AWB running as well. Again, a little cumbersome but not undoable.

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    • It's not going to crash the servers, but might prevent me from doing much else - wiki work or general PC work - for a month, if I can keep to a letter a day. But that isn't an argument not to do it. I just want other admins' input first.

      And maybe Hatebunny can add AWB to his bot.

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    • Did we, at some point, have “heroes” instead of featured and supporting? I don’t recall that. I’m not opposed to the change. It’s a little bit problematic because it’s plain text, and it’s not as easy as just changing a word in the original template (except, at least, for new comic pages). That said, it’s also not remotely urgent.

      So, if it takes a month to implement by bot, no big deal. If you happen to be on a page that has villains instead of antagonists, change it yourself, because you can.

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    • It's pretty easy, as the bot would not replace - Villains - but - '''Villains:''' - with bolding.

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    • Tupka217 wrote: It's pretty easy, as the bot would not replace - Villains - but - '''Villains:''' - with bolding.

      The possibility that the word "villains" would appear elsewhere on the page hadn't even occurred to me! Either way, I'm sure we can manage this, and I don't have any issues with it.

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    • Koavf wrote: To generate the AWB list, you can start at Category:Comics_0-9 and do category recursive. It's a little more cumbersome but it should get the job done. I don't know what you mean about having to reset after 5,000 edits--I have never experienced that.

      Well, that was nice. Just testing it - it doesn't work. Because in that category are the pages, not the categories. I'll just do episodes, movies and games first and then we'll think of something.

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    • Tupka217 wrote:

      Koavf wrote: To generate the AWB list, you can start at Category:Comics_0-9 and do category recursive. It's a little more cumbersome but it should get the job done. I don't know what you mean about having to reset after 5,000 edits--I have never experienced that.

      Well, that was nice. Just testing it - it doesn't work. Because in that category are the pages, not the categories. I'll just do episodes, movies and games first and then we'll think of something.

      Category:Comics by Title might be do-able. The alphabetical comic categories are subcategories of it (but then, so are all the volume pages). Volume by volume is another way to go, I suppose.

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    • Tupka217 wrote:

      Koavf wrote: To generate the AWB list, you can start at Category:Comics_0-9 and do category recursive. It's a little more cumbersome but it should get the job done. I don't know what you mean about having to reset after 5,000 edits--I have never experienced that.

      Well, that was nice. Just testing it - it doesn't work. Because in that category are the pages, not the categories. I'll just do episodes, movies and games first and then we'll think of something.

      Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiite--the volumes are irrelevant. Category:Comic Categories and Category:Comics are a start.

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    • I have mixed feelings about this but I think it's a good move. I'm probably just so used to the old way that anything new feels off.

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    • I'll just make a list of comics and crop it to one letter at the time, which will last me until somewhere in the J. That's where it hits 25000. Luckily, I rediscovered the Reset edit count button. I know I had seen one before.

      After that, I'll probably make a list with the Database Scanner. Don't know what its range is.

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